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Old 01-15-2014, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Asking if there is any "wiggle room" is weak. What do you think they will say: "Sure there is, we are actually prepared to pay 15% more than our initial offer, but we just wanted to see if you will be stupid enough to take it". Or more likely "no, not really" or at the very best "Maybe a little, but not really much more than that".

Reach like someone just pushed you on the train and say that you had a different number in mind for this position given your experience and skills. Then state your counteroffer.
Every time I've asked that question I've been offered more. Every time.
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Old 01-15-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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That is a very very good question. I work in sales and experience negotiations and low ball offers daily. First of all, don't take it personally. Any company will try to negotiate the best price for their hires, just like every employee would like to negotiate the highest salary. It works like this, they offer you X and you are thinking Y, most likely you will meet halfways at Z.

To get back to your question. React with a "flinch". Something like "ummm, not sure about that" or "oh.....hmmmm ok, let's see", or just reacting a little bit with amazement and saying "I see, however I had a different number in mind, let's see what we can do about that".

The reasoning behind this is that the company is throwing a number out there to see if it will stick. If you don't flinch or don't say anything, they will actually assume that you agree with that number. If you do flinch, typically they will try to come up with a higher offer (still not the most you can get). At this time, it may be a good idea to tell them your counter offer. They will probably react negatively as well and you will be willing to concede, etc. until you reach a number you are both happy with.

I like your suggestion. A lot. Thanks for the insight.
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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I never respond to the verbal offer. Simply thank them, reaffirm you are eager to join the team and that you will await the written offer to begin consideration of all aspects as a whole. Salary is of course one component, and many other things can go into that such as bonus, commute time, dress code/expectations, vacation days etc.

Once you have the written offer outlining the entire package it is time to make a counter offer. Again, remind them of what a great fit you each were and how you would really like to get moving if you can just find a little more common ground in the compensation.
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:39 PM
 
Location: NJ
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I never respond to the verbal offer. Simply thank them, reaffirm you are eager to join the team and that you will await the written offer to begin consideration of all aspects as a whole. Salary is of course one component, and many other things can go into that such as bonus, commute time, dress code/expectations, vacation days etc.

Once you have the written offer outlining the entire package it is time to make a counter offer. Again, remind them of what a great fit you each were and how you would really like to get moving if you can just find a little more common ground in the compensation.
Good advice, and for a secondary reason beyond money. By doing this, you are delaying them in the event you do not accpet the offer, and the longer you delay them, the more likely should you request a consideration of a better salary, bonus structure, whatever..the more likely you will get something more, assuming the differentiation between you and the next choice is clear.


Plus, the daly may have given option 2 time to land a differnt job.
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Old 01-15-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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But one thing I haven't seen is HOW to react when they initially come across with the offer that is less than you were hoping for.
Yell loudly, preferably with profanity. $18 an hour? NO XXXXING WAY! You must be out of your mind.

Then flip the table over.

Look them straight in the eye and tell them that need to think again. Don't blink, don't break eye contact. Just stare.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:12 PM
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Stagger lee knows what he is talking about.

Very infrequently will the employer value yourself as much as you will.

If you don't like the employers offer ( taking whole package into account) do not take it.

I worked for a a-hole CFO. He evaluated me as stellar, excpt I had weak negotiating skills. Did some research and learned some things. Next year I negotiated like hell for big increase. He just said no. I got really pissed of and just walked out.

Got a call in twenty minutes to go to his office. He told me I had improved a lot in negotiating, but I was not as good as he was.

I walked out $22k per year richer...about 12% raise.

If you don't believe in yourself and fight for yourself, NO ONE ELSE WILL!

Good luck.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:30 PM
 
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I've read all the online stuff about negotiating a higher salary, having research to back it up, being diplomatic but polite about it, all that crap.

But one thing I haven't seen is HOW to react when they initially come across with the offer that is less than you were hoping for.

Do you ASK if it's a negotiable number, or is that weird to ask?

Do you originally just say something like, "OK" or nod your head and wait until a bit later to start negotiating? Or do you come right out and say that it's less than you were expecting and begin negotiations then?

Thanks.
It's always negotiable. No, I wouldn't ask that. I would probably smile, say I see and let them know what the market pays for my position and let them know politely that their offer is below that. Let them tell you rather or not it's "negotiable."
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:08 PM
 
Location: Idaho
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Yell loudly, preferably with profanity. $18 an hour? NO XXXXING WAY! You must be out of your mind.

Then flip the table over.

Look them straight in the eye and tell them that need to think again. Don't blink, don't break eye contact. Just stare.

I laughed out loud at that one.... (you are kidding aren't you?)
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Old 04-07-2016, 01:05 AM
 
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If you are ready to work for Dhs. 1500/-+ Accomm. in Sharjah send confirm email. we will cal you for interview.
Thanks

I have more then 8 year experience what i have to give the answer i don't know in before iam getting 4500 now they are telling me like this
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