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Old 01-23-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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this place is hilarious. people come on here pretending to give self-evident advice from whatever position they are in to stroke their egos. honestly, i'm not sure why people engage in lengthy discussion in these kind of thread. it's a complete joke. i'm glad i am finally in up to 'management tier' employment, but even happier i don't have to waste a lot time hiring. maybe i will in the future since i've only began this new position, but at least not now!

ps: this thread reminds me of a friends aunt who tried to give advice to his mother. she said his mother should sell and her home since she had a bit of debt to pay off. lol. who is she to make this determination with her limited perspective on the intricacies of this persons situation. she didn't even have a much higher income, and had the nerve to give standard generic advice about saving (which the mother in question had been doing going on 2 years). lol. ego stroking is such a trip. why waste time on such people?

he/she is the applicant problem...not mine...

pss: the likelihood of changing someone mind on a forum outside of a debate section with respected member is 1%. lol

Agreed.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:48 AM
 
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Take away from this thread. Stroke the interviewer's ego (without being obvious about it) and he will feel like he made a brilliant hire and you walk away with the job.
Nothing the OP mentioned had anything to do with ego. It was about common "red flags" from an interviewer's point of view.

The OP was offering advice. Everyone has a choice. Ignore the OP's advice if you so choose.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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There is no contradiction outside of the one you are adding, where did I say there is no experts? I said nobody knows anything, and maybe if you were interviewing people you would realize there is a difference. If you have never met someone who thinks that they know everything about a subject good for you, but you may need to get out more.
I have not done huge numbers of interviews. Probably only ~150 at most. With my professional community work, mostly on conference committees, I have come into contact with several thousand from my profession though.

I still have never had a single interviewee nor encountered another professional in my field who truly believed they knew everything. When you think about it, a person who truly believed that is mentally ill. Maybe you are forming an ad hominem that if a person presents themselves as an expert, particularly a more knowledgeable expert than you, that they have no knowledge of their own limitations and truly believe they know everything?

If you are getting multiple people with that belief as candidates in your interview process, something must be very wrong with your recruitment.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:45 PM
 
Location: NC
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Do not take interviewing advice from your teachers/professors
THIS is SO true!
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:51 PM
 
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Do not take interviewing advice from your teachers/professors
Teachers and professors had to interview for their jobs. Believe it or not, their interviews can be quite tough.
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Old 01-23-2014, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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Teachers and professors had to interview for their jobs. Believe it or not, their interviews can be quite tough.
Higher Ed academic hiring is a completely different thing from most other hiring processes. While there are parallels, there are significant differences. I would not look to a professor for much practical job seeking advice based upon personal experience.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:30 PM
 
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Higher Ed academic hiring is a completely different thing from most other hiring processes. While there are parallels, there are significant differences. I would not look to a professor for much practical job seeking advice based upon personal experience.
If the professor has related work experience outside of academia, then I don't see the problem. One of my CJ professors was a law enforcement officer for a long time. Almost all of the instructors at the school I teach at have real world experience.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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If the professor has related work experience outside of academia, then I don't see the problem. One of my CJ professors was a law enforcement officer for a long time. Almost all of the instructors at the school I teach at have real world experience.
The conversation becomes rather nuanced.

A tenured faculty member has probably not had a job interview in 7+ years! and even then the job search and interview would have been completely different from most people.

An adjunct would have a different viewpoint that might be better for most.
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:40 AM
 
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The conversation becomes rather nuanced.

A tenured faculty member has probably not had a job interview in 7+ years! and even then the job search and interview would have been completely different from most people.

An adjunct would have a different viewpoint that might be better for most.
You also have your tenure track professors who just left college. Some of them worked while in college. Some colleges also have full-time instructors who are non-tenure track and just left their professions. The same also goes for elementary and secondary schools that hire teachers who completed an alternative teacher certification program. I had a technology teacher in high school who had just left the IT field.
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