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Old 01-23-2014, 01:04 AM
 
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Shoplifting would lead an employer to conclude that you can't be trusted around money. And since most employees have some sort of access to things of financial value in an office...that's a problem. So yes, I think shoplifting's a pretty bad thing to have on a resume. But it depends. If you were some teenager and you did it once...that might be chalked up to a dumb mistake, a youthful moment. But the further past 18 you get, the worse that offense looks. Drugs? Pfff, this country loves drugs. We just pretend like we don't.
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Drug abuse isn't a crime. Did you mean drug possession?
It is not a crime but when you take your urine test and it shows up positive, will they hire you?
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Shoplifting would lead an employer to conclude that you can't be trusted around money. And since most employees have some sort of access to things of financial value in an office...that's a problem. So yes, I think shoplifting's a pretty bad thing to have on a resume. But it depends. If you were some teenager and you did it once...that might be chalked up to a dumb mistake, a youthful moment. But the further past 18 you get, the worse that offense looks. Drugs? Pfff, this country loves drugs. We just pretend like we don't.
Isn't it a hypocrisy when the execs do coke but get you to take a urine test to see if you are using any so that they can discriminate you?
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Old 01-23-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh
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Isn't it a hypocrisy when the execs do coke but get you to take a urine test to see if you are using any so that they can discriminate you?
Please...anyone that can't pass a urine drug screen has bigger issues. You know when you fill out the application that you're likely to get tested...You have enough time to study for the test. And the top level execs go through a much tougher background check than you can imagine.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Silicon Valley
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You got a fish's brain no doubt. Because I am not sure how you got that idea. I never shoplifted nor even smoked a cigarette in my life let alone use a drug and I doubt I will do either in the future. I was just curious about HER future.
Wow. I call unnecessary snarkiness...

She may be able to get the shoplifting expunged off her record.

As an employer, I wouldn't hire her over either one. Equally bad in my book.

I don't care what people do in their off-time. But, if the drugs/alcohol show up on a report - then we got a problem.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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As an employer, I wouldn't hire her over either one. Equally bad in my book.

I don't care what people do in their off-time. But, if the drugs/alcohol show up on a report - then we got a problem.
Same here, both are fatal flaws for a background check, especially when there are still many other qualified candidates without those problems.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: North Idaho
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I would not hire either one. I don't need an employee who thinks it is OK to pilfer the inventory or steal from my customers.

The druggy has probably commited worse crimes than shoplifting. Statistically, drug abuse and crime go hand in hand. Also, a stoned employee might do something to involve me in a lawsuit. So, I will pass.

The shoplifter could get a job like auto mechanic where she has no access to money and mechanics own their own tools. If she tried to steal another mechanic's tools, she'd get a severe beat down and probably wouldn't try it again.

There are jobs where the employees don't interact with the customers and own their own tools, so shoplifting would not be a problem getting that job. However, they generally don't hire druggies, except maybe in construction.
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Old 01-23-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Princeton
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not trying to be a buzz kill, but when it comes to a Clearance or a position of "trust" they are "Red Flags".

Working for the Govt, state and city is out of the question, you can throw in any company along the lines, say the pharmaceutical industry and companies like Marriott International or the Hyatt who all have polices that throw up "Red Flags" when it comes to a Clearance that checks the background concerning- Integrity, Honesty, Respect, and Honor.


The word Addiction, Drug use or possession of any kind gets you sent down to wash out lane faster then a jack rabbit on a date, and the shoplifting charge goes against Integrity when it comes to the Govt, even though some of our politicians eventually break the laws themselves, it sucks, but you're looking at the top two charges that will get you a one way ticket down wash out lane.


A simple fact!!
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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.......the world of retail is going to be tough for her to break into.
Not if she has a good set of burglar tools! Ba dump dump!

And i am amazed also that folks think they can be so dishonest and yet retailers are supposed to give them access to their inventory. I suppose they see the liars in politics getting away with murder, literally, and figure it will fly in the private sector. Retailers have enough going against them with out the "inside job" criminals stealing from them.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:32 PM
 
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actually in some states like NY i think its illegal to inquire into an addiction problem per se unless the actual criminal report indicates the sentence received pertaining to the conviction.
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