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Old 06-18-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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This. I cannot figure out why people wouldn't be doing some training on their own, especially with the workforce centers offering programs, dislocated worker programs, free networking groups and training programs, along with volunteerism. I'm currently unemployed (but a full time student) and volunteer to keep myself up to date and the people I know who were previously employed refused to do volunteer work or training on their own. They saw it as a waste of time when they could be looking for jobs. At the end of the day when the postings haven't changed much for the previous week, I'd say a person needs to figure out how to make better use of their time.
Have you ever tried these trainings? I'll wager you have not. These training session are only for certain professions. If you do not work in these professions it is indeed a waste of time.
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Old 06-18-2014, 06:56 AM
 
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Because people who are willing to work are more hard working and deservinthg than people not willing to work.

The only exception I would make is for a person with a provable gap because they gave up employment to take care of a parent or child. OR for another specific life event such as having a spouse that got transferred somewhere so the potential employee made a conscious family CHOICE that may take a bit to iron out.

I closed my business to take care of my mother and would have no problem putting that on my resume.
So there are no other exceptions huh? I have two gaps and neither were through any fault of my own. The first was due to upper management losing two of the three properties I managed in a rebid. I was to be hired on fully as of Jan 1 but was let go Dec 30. My direct superior wasn't even informed of the decision until we were ushered into the personnel office. The second I had gone back to an old employer and six months later the building was sold to a new company. The ceo met with me and told me everything I wanted to hear to get me to sign on. Less than three months later, after completing the transfer paperwork, I was released and replaced with an assistant manager. SOP for corporate america nowadays. I am sure the hr idiots hold these against even though they were out of my control. Worse yet they ask me to explain them and I am sure they consider it badmouthing former employers even though I do not insult or degrade anyone.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:16 AM
 
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Often the long term unemployed person is also a long term do nothing person. Very unlikely to be able to help me reach my goals. However, should I discover a long term unemployed go getter then I would certainly want to discuss how they may benefit the organization.
Your first statement is almost wholly incorrect. I suspect you do not actually know any long term unemployed. But keep up the baseless assumptions.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:25 AM
 
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Oh yeah? Why don't you tell me how you're going to add value to our organization?

I'm a great, motivated worker, up for any task.

What did you do during your time off?

I woke up at 10 to 11 AM. Had a lavish breakfast--carbed up, high protein, so I can kill it in the gym. Actually hit some PR's in the gym and bulked up a bit from the adequate rest I got. Called friends. Surfed the net. Watched TV shows and every B movie horror flick on Netflix. Maybe sent out a resume or two. Frittered away hours in Barnes & Nobles. Posted on internet forums.
You are a lost cause and a hopeless case of ignorance taken to the extreme.
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Old 06-18-2014, 07:50 AM
 
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We just hired someone new where I work, and I called back EVERYONE who applied as courtesy.
Excellent. To all you hr people who don't do this or make excuses why you don't, this is what's known as professionalism. Being a professional is nearly a lost art especially in many hr departments.
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Old 06-18-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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Excellent. To all you hr people who don't do this or make excuses why you don't, this is what's known as professionalism. Being a professional is nearly a lost art especially in many hr departments.

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