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Old 02-05-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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On the other hand, I'm willing to bet my entire bank account the person mentioned in the email is done. It's not fair, but it's life. Employers would rather be safe than sorry.
I absolutely disagree. An anonymous trashing email of this ilk which contains no backup or links to verification goes into the trash. The applicant is judged solely on his own merits and references. PM me your bank account number ...
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:24 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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With so many people looking for jobs, it is unlikely that you couldn't find a candidate outside of the two people in this scenario. They would both be off my list simply because if there is this much drama before they even get the job, then I don't want a part of any of it as a hiring manager, etc.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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I absolutely disagree. An anonymous trashing email of this ilk which contains no backup or links to verification goes into the trash. The applicant is judged solely on his own merits and references. PM me your bank account number ...
Well, there's one thing I've learned over the years, and that is life isn't fair. Yes, it is politically correct to say that the person mentioned in the email is innocent on this. Heck, common sense dictates it. But again, employers will avoid controversy like the plague. We have a few employers here. Ask them for their opinion.
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Old 02-05-2014, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Prince Georges County, MD (formerly Long Island, NY)
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OP, can't you compare resumes to see who worked at the same place? That would expose the rat (unless the person was smart and left it off).
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:31 PM
 
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Here is an example of how employers avoid controversy like the plague. An anonymous email claiming to be a parent complained to the principal about a school teacher having a picture on her facebook drinking alcohol. Without checking out who sent the email or anything else, they fired the teacher.

Or look at the Adria Richards case. A father of 3 lost his livelihood because an oversensitive female publically shamed him after eavesdropping on their conversation. To top it off, Adria Richards' employer also fired her. All of this took place in less than 48 hours.

Employers avoid controversy like the plague. I have no doubt that if my employer receives an anonymous email about some dirty secrets I supposedly have (true or not), I will be very quickly let go. Such is life. It is easier for them to safe than sorry, and being safe meant firing the employee in question.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:32 PM
 
Location: North Beach, MD on the Chesapeake
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Happens all the time in education.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Not where I want to be
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And exactly how would you know who this person that gave you a heads up? Remember that the email is anonymous.

On the other hand, I'm willing to bet my entire bank account the person mentioned in the email is done. It's not fair, but it's life. Employers would rather be safe than sorry.

An email has a return address. Or you can easily trace the IP. And if this was a person already working in my company, that email would be printed out, enlarged, and hung up on the bulletin board and a copy given to everyone in the company with a request for the COWARD who wrote it to come forward to discuss his/her allegations.
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Old 02-05-2014, 02:51 PM
 
Location: NJ
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An email has a return address. Or you can easily trace the IP. And if this was a person already working in my company, that email would be printed out, enlarged, and hung up on the bulletin board and a copy given to everyone in the company with a request for the COWARD who wrote it to come forward to discuss his/her allegations.
Come on now. You really think it would be that hard to send an anonymous email and do you really think a company is going to go through the effort of trying to track down the IP (which most likely would be completely useless).

And you can't possibly think the person who sent it is going to respond to be called out publicly. Forget about the HR nightmare than could come from posting the email publicly.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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An email has a return address. Or you can easily trace the IP. And if this was a person already working in my company, that email would be printed out, enlarged, and hung up on the bulletin board and a copy given to everyone in the company with a request for the COWARD who wrote it to come forward to discuss his/her allegations.
This is wistful thinking at best. A company would never go through those steps. Too much liability.

Companies avoid controversy like the plague. How many times do I have to keep pointing this out? If the unsupported accusation is for a potential employee, this potential employee will be taken off the list immediately. If the unsupported accusation is about a current employee, then it depends. If the employee is still an at-will employee, 90% chance this employee will be let go. If the employee is not an at-will employee, then they will have to weigh out pros and cons. If it is someone higher up, then the accusation will get ignored. The company will always try to figure out the least controversial way to go about it. Fairness is wistful thinking.
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Old 02-05-2014, 04:03 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Companies avoid controversy like the plague. How many times do I have to keep pointing this out? If the unsupported accusation is for a potential employee, this potential employee will be taken off the list immediately. If the unsupported accusation is about a current employee, then it depends. If the employee is still an at-will employee, 90% chance this employee will be let go. If the employee is not an at-will employee, then they will have to weigh out pros and cons. If it is someone higher up, then the accusation will get ignored. The company will always try to figure out the least controversial way to go about it. Fairness is wistful thinking.
I think you are pulling this stuff out of your you know what. You really think an anonymous email is going to lead to someone being fired 90% of the time?
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