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Just call and get it over with. They'll either say "not yet" or "oh yeah, we went with someone else, thanks for trying lol".
They won't even pick up the phone. They'll let it go to voicemail and hopes the OP gets the hint that there is NO JOB waiting for him at the company.
If the hiring manager didn't have the common decency to return his call after all this time or at least get their assistant to do it (I'm sure they have one), then it's a good bet there is NO JOB.
If the OP makes another call, it is just because they want to waste two minutes out of their life that could be best spent looking for another job. When an employer WANTS to hire you, they CONTACT you RIGHT AWAY.
I feel your pain...I have my 5th (yes 5th, same company) interview on Wednesday-it's ridiculous the time it takes to just interview....
Good luck!
That. Is. Ridiculous. Good luck to you too!
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Originally Posted by marilyn220
They won't even pick up the phone. They'll let it go to voicemail and hopes the OP gets the hint that there is NO JOB waiting for him at the company.
If the hiring manager didn't have the common decency to return his call after all this time or at least get their assistant to do it (I'm sure they have one), then it's a good bet there is NO JOB.
If the OP makes another call, it is just because they want to waste two minutes out of their life that could be best spent looking for another job. When an employer WANTS to hire you, they CONTACT you RIGHT AWAY.
They don't give you the runaround and ignore you.
Call it denial, but I think he might not have called me back because of his business trip? I mean I don't know the details other than he wasn't at his office. I would assume he'd call back if it was someone who he needed to respond (his manager or something like that) vs someone he could call back next week when he returns.
It's true that if they want the candidate, they will call right away. They don't want to lose a good candidate to some other company.
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Originally Posted by marilyn220
They won't even pick up the phone. They'll let it go to voicemail and hopes the OP gets the hint that there is NO JOB waiting for him at the company.
If the hiring manager didn't have the common decency to return his call after all this time or at least get their assistant to do it (I'm sure they have one), then it's a good bet there is NO JOB.
If the OP makes another call, it is just because they want to waste two minutes out of their life that could be best spent looking for another job. When an employer WANTS to hire you, they CONTACT you RIGHT AWAY.
Call it denial, but I think he might not have called me back because of his business trip? I mean I don't know the details other than he wasn't at his office. I would assume he'd call back if it was someone who he needed to respond (his manager or something like that) vs someone he could call back next week when he returns.
Could be, although he would have called before the business trip if he wanted to move forward. But, let's hope for the best. I would call him once again Tuesday or Wednesday. Not on Monday, because he'll be busy catching up after the trip.
Hiring manager will be out of the office until tomorrow, June 2. From what I gather, you aren't sure when he left on the business trip. Maybe the district manager didn't get back to him, right away. Give the guy time to catch up, including listening to your voicemail. If you haven't heard by Tuesday morning, give him a call.
It is maddening when employers don't call back and leave you hanging. Cowardly and rude.
Oh please! His file wasn't "misplaced". He left a voicemail message with the hiring manager who did NOT return his call which means there is NO JOB.
The OP will NOT be hired by this company. The District Manager didn't like him or wants someone else for the position. Case closed.
I have to agree with this, and the fact that these were phone interviews makes the OP "less of a person" and just a voice on the phone. It doesn't excuse the bad manners, but they have never met the OP in person and it would involve moving expenses when they can easily find a local candidate.
Sorry OP for how rudely you have been treated, but at least you didn't have to waste your time going through 2 or 3 in person interviews only to not hear back.
That is common these days, and stings more than doing phone interviews.
Typical corporate crap these days. They wonder why we just up and quit and change jobs when something better lands in our laps. Here is a tip to hiring managers and management in general: Treat others as you would like yourself and the company to be treated.
This problem also leads to even the managers and HR moving around and changing jobs all the time. I have had a hiring manager call me three times about the same job and ask me the exact same questions before. The third time I was a bit of a smartass I must admit. My responses all began with "If you will recall, the previous two times we spoke I stated I ......." lol Are they checking to see if my responses change or are they just stupid? I don't really care which it is, I don't have time for the nonsense.
I have to agree with this, and the fact that these were phone interviews makes the OP "less of a person" and just a voice on the phone. It doesn't excuse the bad manners, but they have never met the OP in person and it would involve moving expenses when they can easily find a local candidate.
Sorry OP for how rudely you have been treated, but at least you didn't have to waste your time going through 2 or 3 in person interviews only to not hear back.
That is common these days, and stings more than doing phone interviews.
Well in their defense, I'm in VA, the first interview was in Dallas, second in San Diego and third was somewhere in Arizona. I didn't expected to be shipped out to these locations so I didn't think anything of the phone interviews. Thank you, I appreciate the comment
Well in their defense, I'm in VA, the first interview was in Dallas, second in San Diego and third was somewhere in Arizona. I didn't expected to be shipped out to these locations so I didn't think anything of the phone interviews. Thank you, I appreciate the comment
There is nothing wrong with phone interviews. Don't let the naysayers make you doubt your chances of getting hired. It's the easiest way to interview without taking up a whole day for either party.
I landed a job through a phone interview in another city, even though local candidates had applied for the position also. You can impress them over the phone and still get the job.
Well in their defense, I'm in VA, the first interview was in Dallas, second in San Diego and third was somewhere in Arizona. I didn't expected to be shipped out to these locations so I didn't think anything of the phone interviews. Thank you, I appreciate the comment
While that makes sense, even a Skype interview would have made it a more personal connection.
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There is nothing wrong with phone interviews. Don't let the naysayers make you doubt your chances of getting hired. It's the easiest way to interview without taking up a whole day for either party.
I landed a job through a phone interview in another city, even though local candidates had applied for the position also. You can impress them over the phone and still get the job.
While there is nothing wrong with a phone interview, and while you may say it is the easiest way, it's certainly not the best way to get hired. The easy way out doesn't usually get you the best results.
I can think of several situations that have nothing to do with job interviewing where talking to someone in person garners you better results than if you were to do it over the phone.
It's human nature, when you have an actual being in front of you it makes a difference in how you interact. The situation(whether it is a job interview or you're having a customer service issue) becomes more real and you get a better result when you're face to face.
You become a real person and not just a voice on the phone.
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