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I'm wondering... Suppose you were hired and happened to see a customer's phone long enough to read a text message from their manager saying "Tell the sales guy we're interested and his company has the job."
Would you consider that a binding, factual contract between the customer and your company? Why or why not?
I'm wondering... Suppose you were hired and happened to see a customer's phone long enough to read a text message from their manager saying "Tell the sales guy we're interested and his company has the job."
Would you consider that a binding, factual contract between the customer and your company? Why or why not?
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Back away slowly, it will hurt a little but you will be fine (said the flame to the moth).
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I still do not understand why you feel you are owed anything from this man.
He himself did not offer you an employment position to you personally.
He did not leave you hanging out to dry.
He more than likely does not know you personally.
He has no application or resume from you listing the qualifications you might have to work for his company.
You are going on the word of a relative who has no authority within his cousin's company.
You feel you have been wronged however you have not properly applied, you have not spoken to this man yourself, you have not sent him an email, you have not received a text from him personally and....
you actually think it is appropriate to corner him at a family gathering, that isn't even your family and have a discussion with him because you (and you alone) feel that he owes you an explanation and monetary compensation and an apology.
I cannot wrap my brain around this type of logic because it is illogical no matter how one separates it or adds it up.
Back away slowly, it will hurt a little but you will be fine (said the flame to the moth).
Original Poster:
I still do not understand why you feel you are owed anything from this man.
He himself did not offer you an employment position to you personally.
He did not leave you hanging out to dry.
He more than likely does not know you personally.
He has no application or resume from you listing the qualifications you might have to work for his company.
You are going on the word of a relative who has no authority within his cousin's company.
You feel you have been wronged however you have not properly applied, you have not spoken to this man yourself, you have not sent him an email, you have not received a text from him personally and....
you actually think it is appropriate to corner him at a family gathering, that isn't even your family and have a discussion with him because you (and you alone) feel that he owes you an explanation and monetary compensation and an apology.
I cannot wrap my brain around this type of logic because it is illogical no matter how one separates it or adds it up.
You are willfully choosing to ignore that factually, he offered me a job. I am not simply going by the word of a friend. Furthermore, even it it was only the word of a friend, this is someone that I trust. He worked for me for some time and I have only good things to say about him professionally and personally. Not to mention his wife was present for the conversation he had with his cousin, but I guess she must be 'in on it' too, right?
You are willfully choosing to ignore that factually, he offered me a job. I am not simply going by the word of a friend. Furthermore, even it it was only the word of a friend, this is someone that I trust. He worked for me for some time and I have only good things to say about him professionally and personally. Not to mention his wife was present for the conversation he had with his cousin, but I guess she must be 'in on it' too, right?
People are going to continue to disregard you because "Factually offering" isn't a real thing. It's a phrase you made up and tried to apply here as if "factually offering" is a thing that somehow has implications.
Did you sign a contract? Forget what was said, forget the text. Did you SIGN A CONTRACT?
Since the answer to that is no, you have no job offer.
The "facts" are that you have second hand information (reading a text on someone's phone) and a tentative offer that wasn't actually finalized with details.
You can claim you were "factually" offered a job since that's your imaginary word. But LEGALLY there is no job, as is "factually" supported by the fact that you have no job.
People are going to continue to disregard you because "Factually offering" isn't a real thing. It's a phrase you made up and tried to apply here as if "factually offering" is a thing that somehow has implications.
Did you sign a contract? Forget what was said, forget the text. Did you SIGN A CONTRACT?
Since the answer to that is no, you have no job offer.
The "facts" are that you have second hand information (reading a text on someone's phone) and a tentative offer that wasn't actually finalized with details.
You can claim you were "factually" offered a job since that's your imaginary word. But LEGALLY there is no job, as is "factually" supported by the fact that you have no job.
1. According to you there is no such thing as a fact? Well if believing that facts exist makes me wrong, then I don't want to be right.
2. It is irrelevant whether I signed a contract or not. A signed contract is most certainly not the only way to offer someone a job. To make that claim is factually untrue.
offered: verb (used with object) 1.
to present for acceptance or rejection; proffer:
He offered me a cigarette.
2.
to propose or put forward for consideration:
to offer a suggestion.
3. to propose or volunteer (to do something):
She offered to accompany me.
4.
to make a show of intention (to do something):
We did not offer to go first.
5.
to give, make, or promise:
She offered no response.
6.
to present solemnly as an act of worship or devotion, as to God, a deity or a saint; sacrifice.
7.
to present for sale:
He offered the painting to me at a reduced price.
4. There was nothing tentative about the job offer I received. I received a job offer that was not tentative. Please see the definition of 'offered' as given by dictionary.com.
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