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Old 12-15-2014, 06:07 PM
 
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Yes, that flood of undocumented workers now applying for engineering positions.
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http://dreamstate.dailycal.org/pages/future.html


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He is one among the state's approximately 2.5 million undocumented immigrants and one among a handful of those who have completed college. He holds a civil engineering degree from Santa Clara University but has had to work under a fake social security number because his immigration status prevented him from being hired by an engineering firm.

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Our journey is not complete until we find a better way to welcome the striving, hopeful immigrants who still see America as a land of opportunity; until bright young students and engineers are enlisted in our workforce rather than expelled from our country.
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA
JANUARY 21, 2013
Besides, what does "engineer" have to do with the subject?
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Ak-Rowdy, OH
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You must be new.

http://dreamstate.dailycal.org/pages/future.html

Besides, what does "engineer" have to do with the subject?
Let's review your quote:

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He is one among the state's approximately 2.5 million undocumented immigrants and one among a handful of those who have completed college. He holds a civil engineering degree from Santa Clara University but has had to work under a fake social security number because his immigration status prevented him from being hired by an engineering firm.
It doesn't really, however the smart guy who made the original comment was implying that the legalization of undocumented workers would somehow impact the jobs being filled by the OP's engineering recruiter he was originally talking about.

As very, very few undocumented workers would be in a position, even after becoming legal, to be hired for engineering jobs, it was clear his ridiculous comment was just a backhanded way to toss politics into an otherwise non-political conversation.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:05 PM
 
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Blacklisting for a single speeding ticket in a personal vehicle seems pretty harsh. Blacklisting for an arrest which did not result in conviction could be illegal in some states.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Staten Island
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There is a guy at my gym I run into quite a bit who is some type of employment recruiter and was talking to another person in the sauna about disqualifying candidates based on speeding infractions. He said the guy had a speeding (apparently not reckless) ticket back in 2007 and that his client frowned on that. He also said the same candidates was in an at-fault accident, but it didn't sound like drugs/alcohol were factors or that there was bodily injury.

When did recruiters start disqualifying candidates over such seemingly minor traffic infractions?
Going back almost 8 years? DMV and insurance records don't go that far back. The applicant must have copped to it on his application.
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Old 12-15-2014, 07:55 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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An illegal with money has priority over citizens in college admission, with the non-resident tuition, they love to accept them.
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:21 PM
 
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Yes, that flood of undocumented workers now applying for engineering positions.
If you're getting rejected for a position as an engineer for a 7 year old traffic violation, they're sparing your feelings on the REAL reason that they don't want you.

But I digress.....I'm sure that there are many previously illegals who have engineering degrees and will be cheaper.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Westwood, MA
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Within the law companies can do what they want to filter employees. Some of the draconian policies companies enact ensure that they'll only attract mediocre talents. If that's all they're looking for then that's all they'll get.

If seven year old moving violations are impactful then it makes sense, but it sounds to me like he's got too many candidates and does not possess the metrics to discriminate effectively between the candidates. When companies start excluding candidates based on quantitative but irrelevant criteria it suggests to me that they either don't care about having good employees (because they probably don't think they need them) or they're just really bad at hiring.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:59 AM
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If driving is part of your job, such as trucking, you can definitely be disqualified. Some people are more strict than others in regards to jobs that sometimes require you to drive to and from a site. If you have tickets that were in your personal time it won't do anything to harm your job in most cases (including a DUI). But if they happen on the job, they can put your job at risk, especially DUI.
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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If it is one where driving is required - yes....

If it is an engineer then he is being stupid.


It sounds like his client is requiring it, so he is doing good business and meeting his clients requests.
AS stated there are plenty of applicants. Why not go for the ones that pay attention (not cause accidents) and obey the rules??
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Old 12-16-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: NC
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You must be new.

http://dreamstate.dailycal.org/pages/future.html







Besides, what does "engineer" have to do with the subject?

Can you imagine the liability generated from an undocumented civil engineer messing something up on a job?
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