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Old 04-16-2015, 11:24 PM
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The questions being asked of the OP are standard and customary when the prospective employee could have access to certain restricted confidential information. I believe the reason for the OP being upset had less to do with the need for the questions but more to do with sending in a "modified" resume and now facing the requirement to tell the whole truth.

Never in my life have I seen a job application asking about employments gaps.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:34 PM
 
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Never in my life have I seen a job application asking about employments gaps.
My application ask if you have traveled to certain countries, if you had any judgement, if you ever been convicted of a crime, for a copy of your education transcripts, and yes, to explain any gaps in employment. We get to ask these and much more because at some point, your security clearance will require these disclosures and we need to know before you are offered a position if anything will jeopardize that clearance. The OP mentioned (although downplayed it) that this "regional" utility company operated nuclear generating station. Many positions in the utility generating and distribution industry requires enhanced employment screening. Just because most people are use to the standard employee application process doesn't mean there aren't those of us who are required to implement more probing employment processing. To us, these are "normal routine" questions.
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Old 04-16-2015, 11:43 PM
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My application ask if you have traveled to certain countries, if you had any judgement, if you ever been convicted of a crime, for a copy of your education transcripts, and yes, to explain any gaps in employment. We get to ask these and much more because at some point, your security clearance will require these disclosures and we need to know before you are offered a position if anything will jeopardize that clearance. The OP mentioned (although downplayed it) that this "regional" utility company operated nuclear generating station. Many positions in the utility generating and distribution industry requires enhanced employment screening. Just because most people are use to the standard employee application process doesn't mean there aren't those of us who are required to implement more probing employment processing. To us, these are "normal routine" questions.
But why does an employment gap matter if you have experience in the position??
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:21 PM
 
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But why does an employment gap matter if you have experience in the position??
It's a common belief among employees/workers that employers hire based solely on education and experience. The truth is, we hire based on those two items along with who the person is. If it was only based on E&E, we would have no interviews as we can hire someone to just score the E&E. But we need the interaction to asses the person. Part of that assessment is feeling comfortable in your trust of that person. To be honest, I'm not asking for the explanation to probe into the deep bowels of a persons gap; I'm asking to asses the response to the situation. It also helps that in my industry, the man/woman in black will be checking that gap and I need to know upfront if it will cause a problem.

And we can not ignore that awful secret (although it is widely stated and advocated on this forum) candidates for positions lie all the time and we really can't ignore any concerns as a short innocent gap maybe camouflage for being arrested for stealing from the former employer. Since candidates have trained us to be distrustful of what candidates put in resumes and applications, an that lying in an interview is often encouraged by many, we are just doing what you taught us to do.
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Old 04-22-2015, 09:44 AM
 
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Never in my life have I seen a job application asking about employments gaps.

I have and recently at that. It asked to explain any periods of unemployment.
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Old 04-22-2015, 09:45 AM
 
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The point I think that is missing is that this is just an APPLICATION - no interview no nothing. Why should anyone agree to a background check, provide financial and personal information - just for the privilege of filling out a job application? If it isn't illegal - it should be.

Agreed.
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Old 04-22-2015, 09:47 AM
 
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Since candidates have trained us to be distrustful of what candidates put in resumes and applications, an that lying in an interview is often encouraged by many, we are just doing what you taught us to do.

That's funny. I feel the same way about many employers who also lie their tails off. It takes a liar to know a liar.
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Old 04-22-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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Passwords, user ID - 45 minute applications for a job that they might decide not even to fill - which many of them never do get filled. Better were the days when you sent your resume to the guy hiring - who had a trusted assisted screen then - have your interview and do whatever checks before the start date. This whole computerized hiring systems are a waste of everyone's time. And very, very dangerous for your privacy. Way too much information being kept on third party servers - you don't even know how many people have access to it.

Yeah that is another pet peeve. Setting up passwords and user ID's for almost all applications. Out of all the applications I have completed online a good 90% of them have been this way. And never did I receive responses or even a job offer. The only time I received responses and offers were those who only wanted you to email them your resume.
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Old 04-22-2015, 10:27 AM
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I have and recently at that. It asked to explain any periods of unemployment.

That question would have been blank because I definitely would have walked out and moved on to another job opportunity.
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Old 04-22-2015, 10:31 AM
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Yeah that is another pet peeve. Setting up passwords and user ID's for almost all applications. Out of all the applications I have completed online a good 90% of them have been this way. And never did I receive responses or even a job offer. The only time I received responses and offers were those who only wanted you to email them your resume.
Which means that everyone should ignore the online applications and focus on jobs ads that only require you to send emails.
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