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I have updated and refined my resume and made it in the styles recommended, I seldom get calls on it even though the so called experts have said it is a great resume (for what I do) but whenever I decide to send the old style resume, the one that lists your jobs with all of the duties, those are what I get call backs on.
I guess it depends on just what type of job, this is basic admin office, one is applying for, one size does not fit all. I think I may just stick to that style resume for the future because over the course of 6-8 years of on and off job hunting, the old style resume is the one I have gotten the job with.
Sorry, I don't know of any style of resume where you don't include your jobs and their duties...
what are you even referring to when you say you don't post duties in resume? Do all you have is school/a I want to work here statement? and maybe a reference at the bottom?
Functional interviews look pretty and are mostly short of inecessary information. Applying on line they often do not reflect the proper answers to knock out questions.
Give information that is easy to understand. What have you done, when, for whom. Do your own interview guide with addition of why did you leave, what did you achieve and why, what issues did you face and how did you deal with them. Makes it easier to maneuver through a phone interview.
I have updated and refined my resume and made it in the styles recommended, I seldom get calls on it even though the so called experts have said it is a great resume (for what I do) but whenever I decide to send the old style resume, the one that lists your jobs with all of the duties, those are what I get call backs on.
I guess it depends on just what type of job, this is basic admin office, one is applying for, one size does not fit all. I think I may just stick to that style resume for the future because over the course of 6-8 years of on and off job hunting, the old style resume is the one I have gotten the job with.
Grovester, Hello...
I see there is lots of confusion here.
Some people here even think you are referring to a Functional style resume but I believe you are referring to the current genre of resume which is correctly referred to as 'Accomplishment oriented'.
In which case, correct, you would NOT be listing your duties ESPECIALLY if the job is "basic admin office" since every employer already knows what that entails so OF COURSE there is no need to include the job description for such a position.
In such cases, you would list your employer, a one-liner that briefly describes the company (when the company is not well known) and then your title, followed by bullets of accomplishments.
What would you guys do without me?
What were you doing before I even first started coming here?
Okay, anyway:
If I am correct about this, then we are all appropriately blown away that your best results come from sending out the "Job Description" oriented resume which went out of style about the same time the Do Do Bird went extinct.
And so, yes, strangely, I guess you should continue to send out Do Do Birds instead of the award-winning "Accomplishment" oriented resume which anyone with a brain (not counting the scarecrow, his was made from ballistic grade gelatin and does not count) would recommend.
Except for one thing:::::::::::
There is a difference between getting "call backs" and getting hired.
If you are getting "call backs" but no Offers, then I'd say you stick with what is at least supposed to work best, the Accomplishment oriented style resume.
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If it is I who is confused (a rare occurrence and goes up there with Leap Year except not as often) and you are indeed sending Functional style resumes, then STOP doing that and TRY using the Accomplishment oriented resume.
If that doesn't work, call me and I'll hire you so you don't have to keep coming back here and posting.
In my experience employers hate functional resumes.
Rich, Hello....
I have had two or three SVP/EVP type recruits send me Functional Style resumes and I dutifully forwarded them onward to the clients which resulted in my lining my pockets with coin of the realm.
Functional style resumes are usually most appropriate for senior executives who work in some kind of specialty other than being in general management.
If you ever want to see one that will make your eyes pop, let me know and I'll send it to you.
And oh, by the way, although I don't know what you mean by "...In my experience..." (you are in HR and were forwarding resumes to HA's?), it is possible the Functional resumes those employers 'hated' did not contain a noticeable number of bullets of achievements.
It is a common enough myth that Functional style resumes do not contain bullets of achievements but this is a rumor, not fact.
Sorry, I don't know of any style of resume where you don't include your jobs and their duties...
eyeb, Hi.....
Assuming you don't or didn't see my reply to Eclectic ....
Secretaries, Admin Assistants and the like need not list their duties.
We all already know what they are. It is totally unnecessary to list them and besides, doing so takes up precious resume real estate where the land is better used to display bullets of achievements.
And that's the answer-
Since everyone already knows what a secretary and/or administrative assistant does, it is more logical to list bullets of achievements that describe how such a person created new systems for pushing paper and the like, saving man/woman hours by a certain percent which equaled a dollar amount.
I'm not going to give you a chance to be mad at me by now listing a few examples, lol.
We all already know what they are. It is totally unnecessary to list them and besides, doing so takes up precious resume real estate where the land is better used to display bullets of achievements.
that's the part I don't get...
I work in the lab and if I say I perform something automated, it means I fed it into a machine. It's assumed that I or someone has already QC'ed it and performed the necessary maintenance for the day. But I list it because I want to update the instrument that I used because it is helpful to know what machines you have experience using. Then when I say I performed something manually, it means I did it without a machine... I might do the same thing at multiple jobs but I list it each time to show that I have been doing it so my skill in that test is not rusty.
That's what I don't understand when you said people don't need to list it if everyone knows that it is part of the job... because it might be "part" of "their" job but not someone else's. So if they list it, they are telling them that their skills doing that task is not rusty from not being used.
So a secretary might still benefit from listing that they worked using X software, using Y phone system, etc. I don't know what else they do except answer phones/make appointments in computer...
anyhow, my resumes are really CVs, I just can't see myself using anything except that format. And if it gets too long, then I'll trim it at 3 pages but I have no intention of fitting it onto one page. And if I trim it, I'm just removing the oldest job and not doing it by removing bullet points from the most current.
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Old Style Resume
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