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Old 10-08-2015, 08:00 PM
 
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I'll link the site on request.

There's this site where these people can help you spruce up your resume and play the role of your personal references.

If you knew of such a site, would you use it? Why or why not?
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Old 10-08-2015, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I have a few friends I have worked with over the years and we do that for each other. We claim to have been their manager or supervisor and use our personal cells and e-mails.

The trick is that you list them as a personal reference that you happened to have worked with so the recruiter can ask better questions and your friends can say good things about you. If you list a business reference they can (supposedly) only ask if you worked there and the dates and if you are eligible for rehire.

Maybe a little dishonest but it can be a necessary evil in today's job market, especially if your former managers were passive-aggressive or Machiavellian like a lot of mine were.
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Old 10-08-2015, 11:29 PM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Well that's what I do too. Previous employers don't give references, only hire dates, etc.
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:22 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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I believe the name is jobexcuse and it is not exactly a new idea. They've been arround for over 5 years and businesses have been doing this for centuries. All those wonderful testimonials and experts you hear on commercials are usually paid actors as are the celebrity endorsements.
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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why not put effort into being a good coworker/employee? Then you can get good references for the future?

seems odd people would pay others for a fake reference...
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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Do these people not have friends or coworkers they got along with?

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Old 10-09-2015, 09:48 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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Getting along with doesn't necessarily mean you still have contact information for someone from a job 10 years ago nor feel comfortable asking them for a favor and possibly several by having them spend time on the phone with an HR person or other investigator especially when we had some HR dimwit post a while back that she interrogates references for 30 minutes at least about the subject.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Mine have been ex-coworkers. Most of the programs I worked for are long gone due to budget cuts, etc.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:49 AM
 
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What these services don't tell you is that in today's era of information technology, a company or background checking service always maintains the details of checks they did. So Frank Smith may be your friend who you used as a reference when working for ABC company from 2006 -2014 but if Frank Smith is used by someone else as a reference that info needs to be consistent otherwise the systems will flag it. If Frank shows up as a reference for someone else but with different information that overlaps what they first had on Frank, it's going to be known. This is how companies catch fibs on resumes concerning dates; unless you are consistent in using the same made up information, you now run the risk that it is electronically flagged as inconsistent. What makes this so troublesome is most employers won't even tell you why, they just pass you over, rescind an offer, or say "sorry we hired an internal candidate". No need for them to get into it, just send you away.
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Greater NYC, USA
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Considering that there is more then just one Frank Smith in the US. What are YOU talking about ?


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What these services don't tell you is that in today's era of information technology, a company or background checking service always maintains the details of checks they did. So Frank Smith may be your friend who you used as a reference when working for ABC company from 2006 -2014 but if Frank Smith is used by someone else as a reference that info needs to be consistent otherwise the systems will flag it. If Frank shows up as a reference for someone else but with different information that overlaps what they first had on Frank, it's going to be known. This is how companies catch fibs on resumes concerning dates; unless you are consistent in using the same made up information, you now run the risk that it is electronically flagged as inconsistent. What makes this so troublesome is most employers won't even tell you why, they just pass you over, rescind an offer, or say "sorry we hired an internal candidate". No need for them to get into it, just send you away.
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