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Old 11-13-2015, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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Hi,

A company is requiring an depth exercise prior to an actual interview. The job pays about 70k-80k a year. It's for a consultant at a niche consulting shop.

I feel that this is a bit too much to ask. I have been interviewing for jobs lately and normally the exercises come when one is flown out. I have no problem with spending the time to jump through a company's hoops if they have invested in me and spent the money to screen me, fly me out, have me meet with management, and give me a per diem; however, I think it's ridiculous to have a candidate spend the time before even a phone screening.

If the firm's HR was on point they could identify candidates who would be a good fit by other methods than a 2+ hour exercise.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:21 AM
 
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Apparently they have decided that they want to know that a candidate can do the exercise before they interview them, rather than interview them and find out they can't do the exercise. If you don't like it, don't apply. Is there a question in there?
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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All good for the employer and not considerate of a candidate's time. Not a firm I want to work for.
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:52 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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What does this "in-depth exercise" consist of and how long does it take?
Absent of any other info, I would do it if I was unemployed and probably wouldn't do it if I was employed.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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Like a 2-3 hour case study review....complete with producing a chart
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Old 11-14-2015, 09:31 AM
 
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All good for the employer and not considerate of a candidate's time. Not a firm I want to work for.
Great. Time was saved for both employer and candidate.
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Old 11-14-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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Like a 2-3 hour case study review....complete with producing a chart
ok now that's a "job." Are they going to pay you for that work product? No? well then you know how to answer that. The case study was probably a real client and they just wanted some free work.
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:03 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Like a 2-3 hour case study review....complete with producing a chart

So, similar to the level of effort on a homework assignment in college?
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Old 11-14-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Like a 2-3 hour case study review....complete with producing a chart
A chart too!? Oh the horror. Sounds like an effective way to weed out those that lack skills, initiative and commitment. Good for them.
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Old 11-14-2015, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I think you are looking it it all wrong. I welcome writing samples, assignments and other hoops. I welcome them because it gives me a chance to show what I can do. If it would take the normal person 2 hours, I would probably spend 4 hours. I would send them a masterpiece. And that's how I would land the job.

My God, 2 hours? I spend that much customizing and polishing my resume and cover letter for each job.

When you think about it, it makes a lot of sense from their standpoint. They can learn a lot more from work samples than they can from an interview.
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