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Old 11-16-2015, 07:37 AM
 
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So I called back a recruiter today about a new job. Im trying to get my first job in IT and when they asked about compensation I said low to mid 30s (over a year). Dunno if I should have even gave a range. 30 to 35k (and sometimes even less) is what youll make in my area in a tier 1 desktop tech role, just starting out.

Anyways, I went onto Dice and glassdoor and did some research. First off, Id be employed by the staffing agency for about a year before Im hired by the actual client. The staffing agency has ok benefits but their expensive. And vacation time can be tough depending on the client and time of year (nvm the stingy PTO and stingy holiday pay).

And then I saw the actual job posting on Dice and the compensation rate was 2 dollars more than what the woman on the phone said Id be getting if Im hired. Thats a 4 grand difference over the course of a year.

I know they work on commission and will get a cut of my pay, but that seems shady. Should I bring this up? Can I still negotiate? I just dont wanna feel like Im getting gimped.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:45 AM
 
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Of course you can negotiate it, actually this is something you should always do. I remember when I got my first desktop support job, same deal temp to hire. He said they would pay 18 an hour, and im like nah...... Then he said ok ill give you 20. got the job hehe.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:49 AM
 
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Of course you can negotiate it, actually this is something you should always do. I remember when I got my first desktop support job, same deal temp to hire. He said they would pay 18 an hour, and im like nah...... Then he said ok ill give you 20. got the job hehe.
How would I go about bringing this up if the client agrees to interview me this week? Honestly, based on what Ive read about their benefits package online, I was thinking of having her bring that up, and then mention the hourly rate. Say that I did see the posting had a higher rate, and that this rate would better compensate for the benefits package.

Thoughts?
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:54 AM
 
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If it was me at this point I would not say a thing. Go for the interview and if you get the job I would use that as leverage to get the higher pay.

They would rather take a cut then lose you and **** off the company they are working for.

Typically though when im working with an external recruiter I tell them up front what I want. They will know the wiggle room they have. But in this case it is too late and you have to leverage it.
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Old 11-16-2015, 07:56 AM
 
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If it was me at this point I would not say a thing. Go for the interview and if you get the job I would use that as leverage to get the higher pay.

They would rather take a cut then lose you and **** off the company they are working for.

Typically though when im working with an external recruiter I tell them up front what I want. They will know the wiggle room they have. But in this case it is too late and you have to leverage it.
Good idea. Leverage is key.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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Chief Security Officer with over 25 years experience in IT here.

Sorry that you have to deal with what sounds like a staffing firm. See my earlier post in this forum for some of the deceitful tricks they play on applicants for future reference.

Regarding your compensation, please listen closely: stand firm and demand the higher figure or refuse to work with them. Once you give in, you will instantly feel gimped, used and compromised. I've been there, so trust me, it stinks. It will permanently mar the working relationship.

Stand your ground and demand what you're worth and accept NO bait-and-switch tactics. If they don't pay up, walk. You'll find a job elsewhere but more importantly, you'll have your dignity intact. Believe me, it's worth it when you deal with some of the scumbag recruiting firms.

Best of luck to you and welcome to the IT world!!
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:08 PM
 
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Old 12-06-2015, 10:32 PM
 
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Well I didnt get the job. I went in for the interview, it went just ok. But I could tell I didnt get it while I was there. While the hiring manager was a nice guy, showed me around, and we got along fine...he didnt ask me too many technical questions with regard to the job. And given the position...technical interview questions should be necessary.

He told me I'd hear something by that Friday. I let the recruiter know how the interview went...I said I thought it went well and that I was told Id hear fromsomeone by Friday. She said she would reach out to me once she heard back from the hiring manager. I sent the recruiter a thank-you email as well.

I never heard back from anyone. I guess that's how the cookie crumbles...but that seems unprofessional...especially when I'm told someone would reach out to me to let me know the outcome. I'm used to people at least sending a rejection email.

Oh wells. Its all good...because I had another interview with a different company last week...and it seems like a better fit. I'll start a new thread about that.
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Yea both staffing agencies and their clients tend to be the worst/slimiest employers out there. I just flat out refuse to deal with them,
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