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Old 12-26-2015, 11:03 AM
 
Location: North Dakota
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I got employment gaps on my resume due to a criminal record that makes it hard for me to find work. Is it possible to cover up these gaps with fake employers? I read somewhere that there are websites that can fabricate fake companies with fake references with callback numbers for a fee.

1) Would this evade the hiring company's HR?

2) Could this work? If not, what could work?

3) If I post these fake companies on sites like LinkedIn, would HR find out?
Questions like this make me believe unemployment problems are not due to the economy only. Yes, you will likely get found out. As far as having a hard time getting a job with a criminal record, maybe you should have thought of that before. No sympathy here.
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Old 12-26-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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Hi Minervah. Ok I see. So I should use both excuses. Out of curiosity, if you were me, what reasons would you tell HR as to why you "dropped" out of a Masters program?
Well, what's your real reason? That may be good enough. If you decided the program was just not for, that's not so wrong to admit. If you ran out of money, that's okay too. If it was because of your criminal problem and you don't want to mention that, you could just say it wasn't working out and leave it at that.

If I were interviewing someone and they told me they gave it a shot, I wouldn't have been that nosy although some interviewers would be.

If I were being interviewed and I wanted to mention it I think I would just say it wasn't working for me but I did want to give it another try sometime in the future. I actually did that and it was true. I had picked the wrong school so I dropped out but later I went to another school and finished there.

You sometimes can get a read on the person who is interviewing you. With some interviewers you can be very honest because you feel they won't hold your mistakes against you. With others maybe not. It's not easy I know. I've had my share of horrible interviews.

But don't go too far overboard with the fibs, they can come back to bite you if you are not careful. Only stretch the truth if you absolutely have to.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:33 AM
 
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A part of me outright wants to say "No, falsifying past work on a resume is completely unacceptable". But gaps hurt, dear god they hurt, especially if you star to hit the "3 month +" gap. The employer will always ask and saying "Well I was looking for work the entire time and could not find anything", will probably not be a valid reason.

OP, IDK, I mean if you had solid references at those fake firms, then perhaps it would be okay. As said a part of me wants to say, never lie. But experience has told me that if your gap is long, you won't even get the phone call, you are already written off as "unemployable". It really can be a lose lose situation for job seekers right now.

For example lets say you have a generic college degree (no accounting, nursing degree etc...). So you apply for the entry level/ low level office assistant, customer service rep type role. If you get the position, congrats, you build experience to eventually move on for the low level role to something more specialized and higher paying. BUT lets say the company is only looking to bring on 2 Office assistants and you have 50 something people applying for that role. What do the other 48 people do? What if in 3 months you never land the office assistant, office clerk? All of a sudden you seen as "unemployable" as lazy, etc...- It is just a no win, situation.
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Old 12-29-2015, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Southeast U.S
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A part of me outright wants to say "No, falsifying past work on a resume is completely unacceptable". But gaps hurt, dear god they hurt, especially if you star to hit the "3 month +" gap. The employer will always ask and saying "Well I was looking for work the entire time and could not find anything", will probably not be a valid reason.

OP, IDK, I mean if you had solid references at those fake firms, then perhaps it would be okay. As said a part of me wants to say, never lie. But experience has told me that if your gap is long, you won't even get the phone call, you are already written off as "unemployable". It really can be a lose lose situation for job seekers right now.

For example lets say you have a generic college degree (no accounting, nursing degree etc...). So you apply for the entry level/ low level office assistant, customer service rep type role. If you get the position, congrats, you build experience to eventually move on for the low level role to something more specialized and higher paying. BUT lets say the company is only looking to bring on 2 Office assistants and you have 50 something people applying for that role. What do the other 48 people do? What if in 3 months you never land the office assistant, office clerk? All of a sudden you seen as "unemployable" as lazy, etc...- It is just a no win, situation.
Unfortunately, this is what unemployed job seekers are facing. Any gap of employment longer than a month or two on a resume screams unemployable or damaged goods. I use to be against using fake employers and fluffing resumes but how vicious the job market is for job seekers its a risk some of them have to take to land employment.

I have a generic chemistry degree and it took me almost a year after school to land a full time chemist position out of state hundreds of miles from my hometown. I was forced to take a temp job immediately after to school to ensure I didn't have any gaps of employment. Sometimes you have to do what you got to do to keep a roof over your head, food on the table, keep the lights on, and put gas in the car.
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Old 12-30-2015, 05:24 AM
 
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Unfortunately, this is what unemployed job seekers are facing. Any gap of employment longer than a month or two on a resume screams unemployable or damaged goods. I use to be against using fake employers and fluffing resumes but how vicious the job market is for job seekers its a risk some of them have to take to land employment.

I have a generic chemistry degree and it took me almost a year after school to land a full time chemist position out of state hundreds of miles from my hometown. I was forced to take a temp job immediately after to school to ensure I didn't have any gaps of employment. Sometimes you have to do what you got to do to keep a roof over your head, food on the table, keep the lights on, and put gas in the car.
Agreed, and yes normally I would be against "buffing" up the resume , but fluffing it up here and there is acceptable and arguable even needed. It is a complete crapshoot if you start to hit the 2-3 month+ gap of unemployment, for as I said earlier most of time you are automatically written off for ANY job. And if by some miracle the recruiter does call you back, you bet the first thing he/she is going to ask is what/why where you unemployed for that 3 month + gap?

I mean honestly what is the job seeker to do when you hit the 3 month + gap? At that point you probably take the nearest retail/minimum wage job for it is better than nothing and hope that job as cashier @ cvs is satisfactory whilst you are looking for a more ideal career. You hope that even do a cashier has very little to nothing to do with the job at X, you hope it is enough to convince the recruiter that "hey I am not some lazy bum, I am working!"
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Old 12-30-2015, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Upper Darby, PA
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Agreed, and yes normally I would be against "buffing" up the resume , but fluffing it up here and there is acceptable and arguable even needed. It is a complete crapshoot if you start to hit the 2-3 month+ gap of unemployment, for as I said earlier most of time you are automatically written off for ANY job. And if by some miracle the recruiter does call you back, you bet the first thing he/she is going to ask is what/why where you unemployed for that 3 month + gap?

I mean honestly what is the job seeker to do when you hit the 3 month + gap? At that point you probably take the nearest retail/minimum wage job for it is better than nothing and hope that job as cashier @ cvs is satisfactory whilst you are looking for a more ideal career. You hope that even do a cashier has very little to nothing to do with the job at X, you hope it is enough to convince the recruiter that "hey I am not some lazy bum, I am working!"
Not true, I was unemployed for 11 months and still was able to find a full-time job with Benefits
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Old 12-30-2015, 01:33 PM
 
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Not true, I was unemployed for 11 months and still was able to find a full-time job with Benefits
That was your situation. Others haven't been so lucky. I'm still fighting to get a full time job with benefits.
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Old 12-30-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: Chicago area
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Do whatever you need to do. Companies have no moral high ground that is for sure.
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Old 12-30-2015, 07:29 PM
 
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I used an experienced based resume so I didn't have to worry about work gaps on my resume. Now the actual application was another matter. Also every job I have had has asked for official sealed transcripts from my school.
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Old 12-30-2015, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Upper Darby, PA
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I used an experienced based resume so I didn't have to worry about work gaps on my resume. Now the actual application was another matter. Also every job I have had has asked for official sealed transcripts from my school.
Yup as long as you use a resume detailing skills and experience the gaps will be overlooked.
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