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Old 12-12-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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Geez. Then I can pretty much forget about it.
No. But your goal in a first interview should be to make the final round. At that stage, you are down to 2 or 3.

Think of interviewing like football. Agency interview, phone screen with corp, perhaps a Hiring manager corp SKYPE, then one or two rounds face to face. Your goal at each round is to "move the chains", get another first down. getting hired is reaching the endzone.

PS: Bear in mind, assuming they wish to interview more, it may take a while to find enough they want to see. Perhaps into January, or perhaps adding other agencies. they only pay a fee for a hire-so we often use several recruiters, and all but one gets SQUAT. But >1 slows down the process usually.
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Old 12-12-2015, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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No. But your goal in a first interview should be to make the final round. At that stage, you are down to 2 or 3.

Think of interviewing like football. Agency interview, phone screen with corp, perhaps a Hiring manager corp SKYPE, then one or two rounds face to face. Your goal at each round is to "move the chains", get another first down. getting hired is reaching the endzone.

PS: Bear in mind, assuming they wish to interview more, it may take a while to find enough they want to see. Perhaps into January, or perhaps adding other agencies. they only pay a fee for a hire-so we often use several recruiters, and all but one gets SQUAT. But >1 slows down the process usually.
Well then I suppose I will just continue my job search as usual. 6 weeks down, 20 more to go before I become long-term unemployed.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:08 PM
 
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Well then I suppose I will just continue my job search as usual. 6 weeks down, 20 more to go before I become long-term unemployed.
Correct. You have NO offers, no starting date, so why would you change strategy given those facts.

You need to stop moving your feet before a whistle has blown. The play is not over until the whistle. That firm offer-with all tests passed-is the whistle.

A first interview is not a whistle.

And by definition, long term unemployed 6 month criteria would include the first 2 months when you were not active, as well as these 6 weeks. On a resume, those first 2 months look the same to employers-with or w/o effort.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Correct. You have NO offers, no starting date, so why would you change strategy given those facts.

You need to stop moving your feet before a whistle has blown. The play is not over until the whistle. That firm offer-with all tests passed-is the whistle.

A first interview is not a whistle.

And by definition, long term unemployed 6 month criteria would include the first 2 months when you were not active, as well as these 6 weeks. On a resume, those first 2 months look the same to employers-with or w/o effort.
Well how do you think my search is going overall, at the 6 week mark? I have done 19 applications, 1 interview and no offers. Depending on how this week goes for applications, I may add even more cities to my search.
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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Well how do you think my search is going overall, at the 6 week mark? I have done 19 applications, 1 interview and no offers. Depending on how this week goes for applications, I may add even more cities to my search.
About as I expected. Most interest in Columbus, and given its ultra low unemployment rate-I expect that, but do think even more cities would help your odds.

Do think of things long term in Columbus you want to do, and in the chit chat portion of interviews, (usually the 1st step with H/R when they ask about how you got there), bring up those things as if on your bucket list. That demonstrates "Hey, he is not thinking of leaving this city".

DO NOT indicate you are looking in other cities to any employer. EVER. Do not talk too much about Ct and what you liked about it. EVER. Those things put doubt in employer's minds about "Is he staying in Columbus?".
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Old 12-12-2015, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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About as I expected. Most interest in Columbus, and given its ultra low unemployment rate-I expect that, but do think even more cities would help your odds.

Do think of things long term in Columbus you want to do, and in the chit chat portion of interviews, (usually the 1st step with H/R when they ask about how you got there), bring up those things as if on your bucket list. That demonstartes "Hey, he is not thinking of leaving this city".
I think I have conveyed that to them though. I told them that I have been to 47 states and specifically targeted Columbus as my choice of relocation from CT. That seemed to resonate pretty well with them. Actually, some of the people I interviewed with didn't even care to ask about it. They were more focused on my skills and experience and its relevance to the job.

The REAL challenge, is convincing other employers outside of Columbus as to why I would want to relocate to their area. I just tell them that I have expanded my search and see good opportunities in their area and am willing and able to relocate accordingly. I usually mention 1-3 things that appeal to me about their area, as well. In general, it seems to work decently. Some of them are more hung up on it, while others don't even seem to care about it. Of course, it would be ideal to say that I have some family in the area or something that shows that I have roots, but I don't like to fabricate stuff. If the employer is not on board with me wanting to relocate to their place even if I don't have family there, then I'm not going to lie and say that I have family there just to get the job.
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Old 12-13-2015, 01:06 AM
 
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My job search is basically shotgunning my resume at every low skill job ad that appears on Craigslist. Job hunting for me is coming face to face with my broken dreams.
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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My job search is basically shotgunning my resume at every low skill job ad that appears on Craigslist. Job hunting for me is coming face to face with my broken dreams.
I wish I had that problem. My career is specialized, so job postings are less frequent and in less abundance. And then the company has to be a good place to work, too. I have to be qualified and interested, etc. And it has to be at my career level. That narrows things down a lot.
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Old 12-13-2015, 08:33 PM
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I wish I had that problem. My career is specialized, so job postings are less frequent and in less abundance. And then the company has to be a good place to work, too. I have to be qualified and interested, etc. And it has to be at my career level. That narrows things down a lot.
I wish I had your problem. I can't make anything close to the salaries you get offered. Fortunately, I kill it on stocks week in and week out.
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Old 12-14-2015, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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I wish I had your problem. I can't make anything close to the salaries you get offered. Fortunately, I kill it on stocks week in and week out.
Well, the nice thing about having a career that doesn't require a college degree is that you have MANY job choices available, anywhere, anytime. The downside is that the pay won't be so good.

A career that requires a college degree and pays well is going to be more specialized. Postings will be less abundant. But the upside is that they pay is good.
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