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Old 12-31-2015, 12:26 PM
 
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I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions/ideas regarding when possible future employers ask for job references. I have given them email addresses, which is usually the most appropriate for the references I have given them, but they'd rather have phone numbers.


Regarding my particular references, the only numbers I have for them is work numbers and at the place they work, giving out references is directed to Human Resources. I gave the individual that interviewed me the number for HR, but they insist on speaking to a supervisor, manager, or coworker.


I know that in the past, these references have been kind enough to give a job reference through an email, however, giving a reference over the phone at work is unprofessional as the walls have ears. These are fantastic references for me and I don't want to ruin my professional relationship with them if they think that I'm giving out their work numbers.


I have explained this to interviewers in the past, yet again, they insist that they must speak to someone.


Any thoughts?
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Old 01-04-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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You should never give a reference without contacting them first to get their permission, and to be sure it will be a good reference. Then get a contact number such as cell phone that won't go through the company system, and give those numbers as well as work e-mail. The e-mail address domain will confirm they are who you say they are. Personal e-mail and non-work number looks suspicious. We require voice contact with references, but often use e-mail to ask the reference to call us back.
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Old 01-04-2016, 08:35 AM
 
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Phone references are common; I am not sure why you think they are unprofessional.
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Old 01-04-2016, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Upper Darby, PA
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I was just wondering if anyone had any opinions/ideas regarding when possible future employers ask for job references. I have given them email addresses, which is usually the most appropriate for the references I have given them, but they'd rather have phone numbers.


Regarding my particular references, the only numbers I have for them is work numbers and at the place they work, giving out references is directed to Human Resources. I gave the individual that interviewed me the number for HR, but they insist on speaking to a supervisor, manager, or coworker.


I know that in the past, these references have been kind enough to give a job reference through an email, however, giving a reference over the phone at work is unprofessional as the walls have ears. These are fantastic references for me and I don't want to ruin my professional relationship with them if they think that I'm giving out their work numbers.


I have explained this to interviewers in the past, yet again, they insist that they must speak to someone.


Any thoughts?
I always gave my references work number because it looked a lot better than I had references who were employed.
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Old 01-04-2016, 05:51 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I always give the cell phone number of my references (and I always check with them beforehand to make sure they're okay with it). Rarely do I give email addresses - all of them HAVE email addresses, but to me the company is more likely to get a response via phone. I thought phone was more common anyway.
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Old 01-04-2016, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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With so much information available about candidates online today, I'm surprised lots of companies still conduct these checks. I've read that most of the time, the company just wants to see the titles of the people you've referenced. For instance, having a manager's name as a ref makes you look better than using a co-worker. If the hiring manager deems something suspicious about you, or you gave off some weird vibes at some point during the process, then I can understand.

For the position I have now, I was told twice that a job offer would come after checking my references. Turns out that my references told me they were never contacted by anyone, and that was many many months ago. I didn't have a history of job hopping or exaggerating skills, so I guess they figured they were pretty safe with their selection of me.
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Old 01-09-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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I think that most employers would rather give a quick phone call to a reference anyway, so they can get some kind of sense from a brief conversation if the reference is enthusiastic about you or not. That's hard to gauge from e-mail.

I have former supervisors who would probably make great references, but they've moved on and I've moved on and I haven't spoken to them in a couple years... so for me, it's hard to just ring them up and say "May I use you as a reference?" Fortunately when I left my last job, some of the key people I worked with volunteered themselves as references for me, which was very nice of them and which I am grateful for.
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Old 01-10-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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With so much information available about candidates online today, I'm surprised lots of companies still conduct these checks. I've read that most of the time, the company just wants to see the titles of the people you've referenced. For instance, having a manager's name as a ref makes you look better than using a co-worker. If the hiring manager deems something suspicious about you, or you gave off some weird vibes at some point during the process, then I can understand.

For the position I have now, I was told twice that a job offer would come after checking my references. Turns out that my references told me they were never contacted by anyone, and that was many many months ago. I didn't have a history of job hopping or exaggerating skills, so I guess they figured they were pretty safe with their selection of me.

Because a tremendous amount of information is not available on line.
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