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Old 01-08-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Maybe in the future there could be a law that states that you cannot see someone's age or face until after a job offer then companies are allowed to see the person's profile then we can get away from discrimination.

Even men at 50+ have a hard time getting hired.
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Old 01-09-2016, 07:47 PM
 
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I'm in my late 40's and facing the same cold wind as other women my age and older. That said, there are some industries/companies that have a good age mix and don't see older women as a bad fit. I went on an interview this past week where it was clear that -- whatever other factors might NOT get me the job -- age probably wasn't going to be a factor. Not only was the person retiring from the position an older woman, but some of the other staff members I met were older than me and had started with the company only a few years ago themselves. (It also must be said that the company had almost 100% women employees)

If you can find a company or department that is mostly women, and a good age mix, chances are you won't be facing age discrimination. (And ask yourself: Do you really WANT to work in a company full of younger people?)
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I'm in my late 40's and facing the same cold wind as other women my age and older. That said, there are some industries/companies that have a good age mix and don't see older women as a bad fit. I went on an interview this past week where it was clear that -- whatever other factors might NOT get me the job -- age probably wasn't going to be a factor. Not only was the person retiring from the position an older woman, but some of the other staff members I met were older than me and had started with the company only a few years ago themselves. (It also must be said that the company had almost 100% women employees)

If you can find a company or department that is mostly women, and a good age mix, chances are you won't be facing age discrimination. (And ask yourself: Do you really WANT to work in a company full of younger people?)
I doubt if anyone over 40 would answer "Yes" to this question. The problem is finding a company that doesn't want a company full of younger people. They may be out there, there are just not enough of them to hire all the older people who are looking for work.

What is needed is a way to convince those companies that only want to hire young people that older people make good employees to so the hiring field can be widened.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:16 AM
 
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To most employers, you are dead at 50.
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Old 01-10-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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I doubt if anyone over 40 would answer "Yes" to this question. The problem is finding a company that doesn't want a company full of younger people. They may be out there, there are just not enough of them to hire all the older people who are looking for work.

What is needed is a way to convince those companies that only want to hire young people that older people make good employees to so the hiring field can be widened.
I like working with younger people. It keeps me young in some ways. I wish HR people would be open to what more seasoned people bring to a position. We are not all grumpy, immobile and resistant to change.
One thing that stands out to me is how much personal lifestyle drama affects younger workers. I had it, thats for sure. But you don't realize the extent of it while you in that phase of your life. Older workers are more steady and dependable.
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Old 01-10-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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I'm in my late 40's and facing the same cold wind as other women my age and older. That said, there are some industries/companies that have a good age mix and don't see older women as a bad fit. I went on an interview this past week where it was clear that -- whatever other factors might NOT get me the job -- age probably wasn't going to be a factor. Not only was the person retiring from the position an older woman, but some of the other staff members I met were older than me and had started with the company only a few years ago themselves. (It also must be said that the company had almost 100% women employees)

If you can find a company or department that is mostly women, and a good age mix, chances are you won't be facing age discrimination. (And ask yourself: Do you really WANT to work in a company full of younger people?)
Best wishes to you!


Another poster on another thread - Burkmere - has written that the unemployment rate in Sioux Falls, SD is nearly zero per cent, as a practical matter.


So, another tack - for those who are geographically agnostic - is to just pull up stakes, pack a U-Haul, and GO. Can't be worse than hitting head against wall where one is. Just a thought.


FWIW - I left a state where it was over, employment-wise, after 40. Official words from Department of Labor, Unemployment Division. In one of those initial mandatory lectures, the counsel was: if you're over 40, start your own business so that you can bridge to Social Security.


Took me three months after that to ditch the house, dump the excess stuff, and get out of Dodge to a place that I had researched, that was friendly to over-40 people with qualifications.


Took me nine weeks to find a good job, one that paid a lot more than the one I had left in the CT socialist utopia, which to this day strangles the lifeblood from its private employers. Resulting in a race to the bottom for private sector employees - unless they leave.


I was STILL over 40. Frequently, the geographic cure works.
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Old 01-11-2016, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Lakewood OH
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I was never concerned about whatever the ages of my co-workers happened to be. Older, younger no matter. All I wanted was a good job when I was looking for work. I think that's why older people having to seek out employers who are specifically willing to hire older people just doesn't sit well for me. I understand the need and I am glad they exist but I am kind of sad they have to.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Best wishes to you!


Another poster on another thread - Burkmere - has written that the unemployment rate in Sioux Falls, SD is nearly zero per cent, as a practical matter.


So, another tack - for those who are geographically agnostic - is to just pull up stakes, pack a U-Haul, and GO. Can't be worse than hitting head against wall where one is. Just a thought.


FWIW - I left a state where it was over, employment-wise, after 40. Official words from Department of Labor, Unemployment Division. In one of those initial mandatory lectures, the counsel was: if you're over 40, start your own business so that you can bridge to Social Security.


Took me three months after that to ditch the house, dump the excess stuff, and get out of Dodge to a place that I had researched, that was friendly to over-40 people with qualifications.


Took me nine weeks to find a good job, one that paid a lot more than the one I had left in the CT socialist utopia, which to this day strangles the lifeblood from its private employers. Resulting in a race to the bottom for private sector employees - unless they leave.


I was STILL over 40. Frequently, the geographic cure works.
This person in the OP is in Boston. Greater Boston is a prosperous area with a healthy job market that should afford ample protection to workers.

For me, and I'm not even anywhere near 50, I basically had to pack up and leave Tennessee and moved to the Midwest where labor markets are much healthier. If this person is having no luck for whatever reason, they probably ought to consider moving.
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Old 01-11-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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Moving? Yea ok...
You need $$$$ to move. You need to already have a place to live in to move. Prefer to go to a roach infested motel in some unknown town/city? Going to live out of your car maybe? Good luck with that. Moving to some place with no job lined up? Good luck...
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Old 01-11-2016, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Upper Darby, PA
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Moving? Yea ok...
You need $$$$ to move. You need to already have a place to live in to move. Prefer to go to a roach infested motel in some unknown town/city? Going to live out of your car maybe? Good luck with that. Moving to some place with no job lined up? Good luck...
I never understood some of the advice on here to tell someone to move which requires a nice savings account.

And how many people can just pick up and move?
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