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Old 01-13-2016, 09:16 AM
 
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The person doesn't seem to be on LinkedIn, but I don't see how that differs from an email.
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Old 01-14-2016, 12:08 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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The person doesn't seem to be on LinkedIn, but I don't see how that differs from an email.
Someone can make an intro via LinkedIn and the message will come from the intro-er. You need an intro of some form.
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Old 01-14-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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This is a good article, although it is resigned to the unfortunate fact that email is the only way to get through to most people these days. So as much as I loathe it as a method of first contact, I need to find a way to use it effectively to convince them to set up a phone call.

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Old 01-14-2016, 08:20 AM
 
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I'm afraid you're right.

Its almost all done through networking now. who knows who and so on.
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Old 01-14-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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Its almost all done through networking now. who knows who and so on.
If you don't know anyone you're kind of stuck with the cold call or icy email. I was referred to the person I want to talk to by a coworker of his, and she told me how I could reach his out of country office by phone. But the receptionist derailed me, wouldn't patch me through, and told me to email him.
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Old 01-16-2016, 03:49 PM
 
Location: KC, MO
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I have a company that I'd like to entice into a conversation about future job opportunities

I feel I have a much better chance of making a good impression if I can engage them on the telephone.

I have some very unique , specialized skills and they are one of a very few places that could use them.
D,

You sound like someone who is right up my alley.

As long as you are not Liam Neeson ("unique, specialized skills") and not IT, contact me, explain better what it is you do and I'll see if I can give you tips I'd use to make such contact with an appropriate HA. Headhunters chase down difficult-to-find people all the time.

Contacting an appropriate person directly is perfectly acceptable as long as you are somewhat unique and have a stellar background to back it up.


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Old 01-16-2016, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Upper Darby, PA
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I have a company that I'd like to entice into a conversation about future job opportunities, and I feel I have a much better chance of making a good impression if I can engage them on the telephone. I have some very unique , specialized skills and they are one of a very few places that could use them. But in the age of email, everyone seems to want to use email as a filter/deflector shield. As my potential employer I need to respect their preference, but I also feel I have greatly reduced chances via that communication method. And because my skills are unique and not broadly applicable in the job market, there is a lot riding on every contact I make. I can't just go to the next store in the phone book like a salesman or cashier could, for example. My options are very few and far between.

Honestly, if someone emailed me about job opportunities I would pay much less attention than if they managed to get me into an actual conversation. I'm probably in the minority though, people seem to prefer virtual conversations over actual ones.

Any suggestions/techniques for overcoming this tendency that I feel is a barrier? I find myself in the position of having to use email to try and convince them to talk to me, and I'd like to flip that around somehow, get them to talk to me and then follow up in email if they want to.

You do better with a cold email instead of calling because it's less direct. And that can be done by finding the hiring person on Linkedin.
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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I'm happy to say I succeeded in my "cold email". I must have said the right things in my email because he wants to talk to me and set up a phone appointment next week. Now I just hope I can duplicate that success in the call...
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Old 01-19-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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You do better with a cold email instead of calling because it's less direct. And that can be done by finding the hiring person on Linkedin.
For the third time, he isn't on LinkedIn
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