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Old 02-28-2016, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I'd like to hear from people who are unemployed and have been job-hunting for a long time with no success. I'm about to be faced with looking for a job soon. What problems have you encountered?
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Old 02-28-2016, 01:48 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Not currently employed, but was let go from a job I held for close to 13 years in a corporate layoff. That was in Octoner of 2012, and didn't get a job until March of 2014. The biggest obstacle I personally encountered was age discrimination. I was 59 years old when I was let go. Although I had great experience, could quantify my value, worth and accomplishments, matched the job descriptions and had a great skill set, my age was held against me. Plus, at that time, the job market in NJ was abysmal. Through sheer perseverance and networking, I finally found decent full-time employment.
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Old 02-28-2016, 02:36 PM
 
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Biggest problem I see, which also affected me severely, is you have to fit the perfect mold.

You can be perfectly educated, experienced, capable and willing to do a job but if you don't fit the perfect mold, i.e. you are too old, too experienced, not enough experience, long term unemployed, big gaps, made too much money in the past etc... employers are quick to write you off. They would rather not hire if they can't find the perfect candidate.

It is no longer about hiring the most qualified of those that apply, but finding a certain person and being willing to look for that person for as long as it takes and putting all the extra work on the existing employees.

Purple squirrel syndrome. Basically employers expect more than is realistic.
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Old 02-28-2016, 07:43 PM
 
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In my case, I tried several strategies and some of them failed. Applying for jobs through online job applications burnt me the faith to land a job so I decided to give up this strategy for a while and now I am trying other approaches to land a job.

The main problem I encountered... I would say there are a massive competition out there. Nowadays It seems that having a degree is not good enough and companies demand a large amount of years of experience even for entry level positions. I realized that there are very few entry level jobs as well if you compare with senior ones. I do not care where are you from, I have experience looking for jobs in the U.S., in UK, in Ireland, in Spain, in South America, in Saudi Arabia, in UAE and so on... is always the same in a lot of countries.

Maybe I am too pesimistic but I see the requirements for most jobs unreasonable and also I see the right of having a job a luxury available to few, perhaps only for the elite.

Good luck by the way.
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Old 03-01-2016, 01:50 AM
 
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I was lucky to finally land a TA position at a school for autistic children. I'm using this as a stepping stone into a meaningful career in education. I'm going to keep looking while I'm working there.

I was searching for a long time and yeah, most employers are looking for purple squirrels.
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Old 03-02-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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In my case, I tried several strategies and some of them failed. Applying for jobs through online job applications burnt me the faith to land a job so I decided to give up this strategy for a while and now I am trying other approaches to land a job.

The main problem I encountered... I would say there are a massive competition out there. Nowadays It seems that having a degree is not good enough and companies demand a large amount of years of experience even for entry level positions. I realized that there are very few entry level jobs as well if you compare with senior ones. I do not care where are you from, I have experience looking for jobs in the U.S., in UK, in Ireland, in Spain, in South America, in Saudi Arabia, in UAE and so on... is always the same in a lot of countries.

Maybe I am too pesimistic but I see the requirements for most jobs unreasonable and also I see the right of having a job a luxury available to few, perhaps only for the elite.

Good luck by the way.
You aren't being pessimistic, you just see the reality of the situation. How you react to knowing the information is what matters.

They have done lots of studies on this and yes, employers expect more than is practical.

For example, in one study they found that something like 78% of job ads for admin assistants required a college degree, yet only about 18% of currently working admin assistants had a college degree.

Lots of employers put out ads, but don't really have an urgent need to hire. If the employers absolutely had to hire someone, they would raise pay, lower expectations, develop employees more in house etc... and that isn't happening much.

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Old 03-02-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: JobHuntingHacker.com
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You aren't being pessimistic, you just see the reality of the situation. How you react to knowing the information is what matters.

They have done lots of studies on this and yes, employers expect more than is practical.

For example, in one study they found that something like 78% of job ads for admin assistants required a college degree, yet only about 18% of currently working admin assistants had a college degree.

Lots of employers put out ads, but don't really have an urgent need to hire. If the employers absolutely had to hire someone, they would raise pay, lower expectations, develop employees more in house etc... and that isn't happening much.
What you say is actually quite funny to me. My division has been tying to fill a job for the past 2 months. Accordinng to my boss they haven't been getting a lot of good responses. I looked at the ad and it was full of typos and spelling errors making it look really bad to any prospective Employee. Furthermore, its NYC so competition isnhigh and there are a lot of jobs.

But there seems to be no urgency to hire and I know for a fact rhat the company can't afford someone other than entry level or 1-2 years out of college at most.
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Old 03-02-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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I graduated with a bachelors degree in 2013, and I finally just found a FT job. I think the hardest thing for me was the lack of being prefect, as the previous poster has touched on. Since I have no FT experience, I'm unqualified. However, I do have several internships,so I've also been told that I'm overqualified. I got to the point that I didnt even know what to apply for anymore. I ended up getting this current position after working with a recruiter.

I also think my struggle with finding a job was due to not having a good network. Many people I graduated with got jobs right out of college because they had a connection. I tried building my network, but it never translated into a job.
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Old 03-02-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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I graduated with a bachelors degree in 2013, and I finally just found a FT job. I think the hardest thing for me was the lack of being prefect, as the previous poster has touched on. Since I have no FT experience, I'm unqualified. However, I do have several internships,so I've also been told that I'm overqualified. I got to the point that I didnt even know what to apply for anymore. I ended up getting this current position after working with a recruiter.

I also think my struggle with finding a job was due to not having a good network. Many people I graduated with got jobs right out of college because they had a connection. I tried building my network, but it never translated into a job.

Congrats on sticking with it.
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Old 03-03-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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Congratulations Sam8231! Remember us while you are working.

High Altitude, I was shocked when I read in forums and articles that my country, Spain, has exactly the same problems as US. Perhaps the only differences I found are mainly: 1) the unemployment rate is about 5 times bigger in Spain than US. 2) Networking is not only an alternative but also a must have if you want to land a job (we used to say: you need a Godfather to land a job). Some similarities: 1) degrees devaluated due to the high demand of students, 2) people even with Masters or PhD working as supermarket cashier or similar roles, 3) you put your best effort to apply for a job but never hear again about the employer (no call back), 4) entry level jobs with unrealistic skills and poorly paid, 5) call center jobs previously were filled by immigrants without any qualification at all now are filled even with telecommunications engineers, 6) Evictions of jobless people have increased since 2008 even with suicides (the worst face of our crisis).

In my case... I have gaps in my resume but It was inevitable, most people in my country has gaps or really bad jobs. I wake up very early every day to start looking for jobs at 7.00 a.m. worldwide. I should keep on looking for jobs right now but I have to stop for a while because I suddenly felt really sad and I broke in tears while I was applying in Canada and UK as I just remember. I am sorry I can´t stop that, sometimes I feel really depressed, I am a really hard worker and this is the first time in my life I am feeling I am going down... sorry can´t keep on writing...
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