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Old 06-28-2016, 12:22 PM
 
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In an effort to expand and saturate the open market for a career. I came upon some opportunities to apply for federal under "civilian" status.

I followed the "resume" format and read thoroughly the job description.

It took about two hours to get my documents and notes in order before following thru with the federal checklist of documents required to apply.

I log on, do the questionnaire. Next step, present the docs!

Mid way thru comes a RED LETTER warning line- It stated: This Position requires Enlisting. PLease review the enlistment parameters. So apparently you must be : Between ages 18 to 35, in top shape ( physical required, any handicaps will need mentioned, and be willing to go thru boot camp.) .

I laughed in a decent way,(I reflected on the movie Private Benjamin), and definitely over 35 years old.

Definitely not in the best of health physically and have two handicaps. No boot camp for this lady! .

Its a Desk job primarily and most of the heavy tasks are not involving any field work.

How can they call it open to civilians if they end up saying that you have to enlist to be apart of this group?

My SIL is a civilian ( contracted) to audit certain areas of the govt. She definitely did not have to enlist to complete her application.

Am I missing something about labeling it a civilian job if the prerequisite is enlisting? Any suggestions of actual federal departments that do hire civilians to do desk jobs? I am limited in walking and lifting.
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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You sure they aren't referring to the ss? https://www.sss.gov/Registration-Info/Who-Registration

For a "volunteer" army, the US seems to require people to sign up to get federal services, grants for college, jobs, etc

Or it might really be for enlisted people? Post job so we can see?
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:58 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, originally from SF Bay Area
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In an effort to expand and saturate the open market for a career. I came upon some opportunities to apply for federal under "civilian" status.

I followed the "resume" format and read thoroughly the job description.

It took about two hours to get my documents and notes in order before following thru with the federal checklist of documents required to apply.

I log on, do the questionnaire. Next step, present the docs!

Mid way thru comes a RED LETTER warning line- It stated: This Position requires Enlisting. PLease review the enlistment parameters. So apparently you must be : Between ages 18 to 35, in top shape ( physical required, any handicaps will need mentioned, and be willing to go thru boot camp.) .

I laughed in a decent way,(I reflected on the movie Private Benjamin), and definitely over 35 years old.

Definitely not in the best of health physically and have two handicaps. No boot camp for this lady! .

Its a Desk job primarily and most of the heavy tasks are not involving any field work.

How can they call it open to civilians if they end up saying that you have to enlist to be apart of this group?

My SIL is a civilian ( contracted) to audit certain areas of the govt. She definitely did not have to enlist to complete her application.

Am I missing something about labeling it a civilian job if the prerequisite is enlisting? Any suggestions of actual federal departments that do hire civilians to do desk jobs? I am limited in walking and lifting.
From what you said, there is no surprise. You are applying as a civilian. Any job that requires enlisting is open to civilians, you cannot enlist if you are already in the military. What you are looking for is Civilian Jobs rather than jobs that civilians can apply for. I suppose the way they did this is a bit misleading.
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Old 06-28-2016, 01:35 PM
 
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Was this a national guard position? There are some positions posted for civilians that are only open to people in the national guard who meet certain parameters. Just keep in mind that when doing your search you'll still find a lot that are only open to current employees of X agency, national guard, etc. They aren't actually all U.S. Citizens like they should be even if that's the search you've run.
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Old 06-28-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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What was the agency? National guard positions usually state in the announcement that you have to be a member. The army does as well. Many federal position announcements are usually very specific about who may apply in the who may apply section.
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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From what you said, there is no surprise. You are applying as a civilian. Any job that requires enlisting is open to civilians, you cannot enlist if you are already in the military. What you are looking for is Civilian Jobs rather than jobs that civilians can apply for. I suppose the way they did this is a bit misleading.
Aha! Well there is the clarification. Thank you!

It was for army....
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Old 06-29-2016, 06:40 AM
 
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probably something similar to the air reserve technicians (ARTs) that require a dual status.
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Old 06-29-2016, 07:25 PM
 
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probably something similar to the air reserve technicians (ARTs) that require a dual status.
My first thought too.
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