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Old 08-17-2016, 06:34 PM
 
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Long story short the first job out of college, I hated the office manager there.
There was a lot of miscommunication with how the President wanted me to do things and how she wanted me to do things. Eventually got laid off after a year of working there.

After getting laid off, I wrote to her, the President, and the VP what my problems were but still thanked them for the opportunity. I never got a reply from either of them.

Now I am kind of in a bind as when I am looking for a new job and after passing 2nd round interviews I get asked for references..... There is no way I am putting the office manager's contact info because I believe we hated each others guts. What do I do???

My other previous places that I have worked for and had good relationships with have either closed shop or cant even reach them anymore.
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:06 PM
 
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Is there ANYONE you had a good relationship with from that job? Another supervisor, maybe?
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Old 08-17-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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Is there ANYONE you had a good relationship with from that job? Another supervisor, maybe?
Yes the real estate lady but everyone in that office talks/gossips. So if they call her I'm sure shes gonna tell my office manager and the bosses that I used her number for a reference
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Houston TX
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Well just list HR manager as a reference.

In Texas HR cannot provide any details other than that you worked there until certain day and received certain salary. That's it. I heard other states have the same policy.

My company cannot provide any other details, that's the company policy. And I think this policy is based on the state law.
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:21 PM
 
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Yes the real estate lady but everyone in that office talks/gossips. So if they call her I'm sure shes gonna tell my office manager and the bosses that I used her number for a reference
So what?
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:26 PM
 
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Well just list HR manager as a reference.

In Texas HR cannot provide any details other than that you worked there until certain day and received certain salary. That's it. I heard other states have the same policy.

My company cannot provide any other details, that's the company policy. And I think this policy is based on the state law.
That is your company's policy. It is not based on any federal or state law -- it is what your company's attorneys have told them to do.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Houston TX
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That is your company's policy. It is not based on any federal or state law -- it is what your company's attorneys have told them to do.
Thanks, I didn't know that. But I heard from many different people from other states/different companies that their companies have similar rules.

So OP should find out, maybe his previous company has the same policy too.
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Old 08-17-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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Thanks, I didn't know that. But I heard from many different people from other states/different companies that their companies have similar rules.

So OP should find out, maybe his previous company has the same policy too.
Companies generally limit the information they give out because it takes time providing info. The less they give out, the less time they are wasting on some former employee who isn't contributing to their bottom line anymore. Why waste their time helping an ex get a job. Your gone so be glad they even took the time to give what little they did. I know other employers who have decided that any employee that quits to go elsewhere or leaves on questionable/bad terms, they won't even respond to any inquiries.
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Old 08-18-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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Long story short the first job out of college, I hated the office manager there.
There was a lot of miscommunication with how the President wanted me to do things and how she wanted me to do things. Eventually got laid off after a year of working there.

After getting laid off, I wrote to her, the President, and the VP what my problems were but still thanked them for the opportunity. I never got a reply from either of them.

Now I am kind of in a bind as when I am looking for a new job and after passing 2nd round interviews I get asked for references..... There is no way I am putting the office manager's contact info because I believe we hated each others guts. What do I do???

My other previous places that I have worked for and had good relationships with have either closed shop or cant even reach them anymore.
1st thing, I think you learned a valuable lesson about leaving a company, You incurred no value added by trashing their company, even if it was private to the president and VP.

2nd, you are basically left with HR, hopefully they hold a strict confirmation policy, and just give facts. FYI, that letter was most likely turned over to HR, hopefully HR did not take offense to it.

3rd, supplement your references with other ones, college professors, past bosses, find someone...
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Old 08-18-2016, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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Long story short the first job out of college, I hated the office manager there.
There was a lot of miscommunication with how the President wanted me to do things and how she wanted me to do things. Eventually got laid off after a year of working there.

After getting laid off, I wrote to her, the President, and the VP what my problems were but still thanked them for the opportunity. I never got a reply from either of them.

Now I am kind of in a bind as when I am looking for a new job and after passing 2nd round interviews I get asked for references..... There is no way I am putting the office manager's contact info because I believe we hated each others guts. What do I do???

My other previous places that I have worked for and had good relationships with have either closed shop or cant even reach them anymore.


Were you laid off, or fired?
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