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Old 06-01-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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I'm going to be starting a new job but the entire process is about 5 months. Luckily, I'm currently working so it's not hurting me. However, I got to thinking about others who are in similar situations but without a current job. How can you wait for 6 months? What happens if it falls through in month 5?
I can understand a month or two but 6 months seems like hell, especially if you don't get it. Also, what's the etiquette for looking for other jobs if you're in line for another job?
6 months seems reasonable if it's a high level executive job but a friend of mine just got an executive secretary job that she first interviewed for in January.
How do employers justify the length of the process?
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Old 06-02-2017, 11:57 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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A hiring process should not usually take that long. What I have seen in big companies is a new position being budgeted for the next fiscal year, and the recruitment started early. It would be nice if the job announcement stated that, so people knew ahead of time when applying, but in these cases no one can start before that fiscal year start date. Things do happen, but it should be the exception. One position I hired for started with the job announcement in December, and it was not filled until April. In that case there were about 20 applicants, but only 8 that demonstrated the qualifications on their resumes. After interviews it turned out that none was really qualified so we started over with another 3 week application period and a wider outreach. When that ended, it took time to do the interviews, make the offer, check references and do the background check. The fastest hire I have done here was about 10 weeks from job announcement to the person starting. On the other hand, when I owned a small business, there were times when I interviewed someone and hired them on the spot, starting the next day.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:14 PM
 
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A hiring process should not usually take that long. What I have seen in big companies is a new position being budgeted for the next fiscal year, and the recruitment started early. It would be nice if the job announcement stated that, so people knew ahead of time when applying, but in these cases no one can start before that fiscal year start date. Things do happen, but it should be the exception. One position I hired for started with the job announcement in December, and it was not filled until April. In that case there were about 20 applicants, but only 8 that demonstrated the qualifications on their resumes. After interviews it turned out that none was really qualified so we started over with another 3 week application period and a wider outreach. When that ended, it took time to do the interviews, make the offer, check references and do the background check. The fastest hire I have done here was about 10 weeks from job announcement to the person starting. On the other hand, when I owned a small business, there were times when I interviewed someone and hired them on the spot, starting the next day.
I'm going to be working for the state, so it's 5 months from the exam to the start bc of the bg checks, me choosing the location, etc.
However, I've known people who have been in the running for 2-3 months for regular jobs and I just don't understand how you can wait so long especially if you don't get it. That must be depressing.
I'm the type who gets hired right away, too. I interview well. Before the bg check culture, I'd usually start within a day or two.
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Old 06-02-2017, 09:26 PM
 
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Because hiring is very low priority for most employers. Employers could hire and on board people quickly if they really wanted to.
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Old 06-03-2017, 06:32 AM
 
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It depends.
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Old 06-03-2017, 08:08 PM
 
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I'm going to be starting a new job but the entire process is about 5 months. Luckily, I'm currently working so it's not hurting me. However, I got to thinking about others who are in similar situations but without a current job. How can you wait for 6 months? What happens if it falls through in month 5?
I can understand a month or two but 6 months seems like hell, especially if you don't get it. Also, what's the etiquette for looking for other jobs if you're in line for another job?
6 months seems reasonable if it's a high level executive job but a friend of mine just got an executive secretary job that she first interviewed for in January.
How do employers justify the length of the process?

That's why unemployment today is so scary because it's only six months which means you will likely run out of unemployment compensation waiting on a offer letter.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:36 AM
 
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That's why unemployment today is so scary because it's only six months which means you will likely run out of unemployment compensation waiting on a offer letter.
You would think that the state would give businesses an incentive to hire unemployed people quickly.

And here is the kicker. Several state institutions are super slow at hiring themselves. I applied for a job with SUNY in April. Had my first phone interview with them last week. Don't have an in person interview until 6/28, then who knows how long until they make a decision. In the meantime, I had final in person interviews for 3 other jobs in the last 2-3 weeks. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that I get an offer and start BEFORE the SUNY interview.
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Old 06-04-2017, 10:58 AM
 
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You would think that the state would give businesses an incentive to hire unemployed people quickly.

And here is the kicker. Several state institutions are super slow at hiring themselves. I applied for a job with SUNY in April. Had my first phone interview with them last week. Don't have an in person interview until 6/28, then who knows how long until they make a decision. In the meantime, I had final in person interviews for 3 other jobs in the last 2-3 weeks. It isn't out of the realm of possibility that I get an offer and start BEFORE the SUNY interview.
I was in that situation before and decided to take a risk and turn down job offers by other companies so I could get the offer from that one company that was taking so long. Luckily I was able to finally get that one job offer after rejecting two other offers and been working here now 4 years.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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I was in that situation before and decided to take a risk and turn down job offers by other companies so I could get the offer from that one company that was taking so long. Luckily I was able to finally get that one job offer after rejecting two other offers and been working here now 4 years.
Unfortunately, if you're receiving unemployment you may have to legally take a job that is offered to you provided that it meets certain conditions. Let alone unemployment is temporary and there is no sure thing.
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Old 06-04-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Unfortunately, if you're receiving unemployment you may have to legally take a job that is offered to you provided that it meets certain conditions. Let alone unemployment is temporary and there is no sure thing.
Then a person will could get stuck in a bad situation if that other offer they want never comes through which is unemployment should 12 months. Someone may not get called for a interview until their third or fourth month of receiving compensation.
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