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Old 07-22-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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Never get excited about getting the job until you get the offer letter. Also, it is not possible to know how the job will turn out just based on interviews. The job may turn out to be a nightmare no matter how great the job seems from interviews.
Amen! The best interviews yielded the worst jobs. For the first time in my life I need a job but I don't want to work. I do not want to deal with incompetent and nasty people.

I read some reviews and I am completely turned off. I just can not endure what I went through before. Did I mention the salaries are horrible too? We live in a society geared towards two income households. Back to the hunt.
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Old 07-24-2018, 08:19 PM
 
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This week seems like a dud I know, I know, it's only Tuesday. But, gosh darn it, lol. I have a phone screening this Friday. I'm not too thrill about the position to be honest. It's one of those jobs where you filled out an application because you were desperate But, I am not going to the complain. Interviews are always a great learning experience. Hopefully, someone can call me with a more interesting position. Someone who is ready to put me work. Those other jobs interview I had were with the city/government. One told me it will take sometime before they hire someone. The other didn't make mention, but I really don't care because the pay is crap.I don't see how the position will add anything to my skill set. Again, like before, I was in a desperate state when applying. But, again, as stated before, interviews are always a great learning experience. I've been enjoying them lately
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Old 07-25-2018, 01:40 AM
 
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Old 07-25-2018, 07:31 AM
 
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Maybe this is a new development in recent years, but many of my friends tell me the entire job interview process is taking more and more time than it use to. More phone interviews and in-person interviews that have you meet with 4-5 people where you are spending most of the day there.

I was having lunch with a friend who told me he had applied for a job and was told by HR the hiring manager would call him for a phone interview. He got the call, but this wasn't the hiring manager, it was someone else who reports to the hiring manager. He said his role was to screen people to see who would make the short list, and the short list would get asked to come in for an interview. This screener mentioned he had 30 resumes of people to contact to do this.

Now, what strikes me as very odd, is that I can't think of many jobs where there are 30 resumes that come in and they are all such a great match that I felt the need to talk to each of them. Going through 30 resumes should yield perhaps 3 people that are worth having a phone interview with, maybe 5. What a complete waste of time talking to the other 25 to 27 people. Not only their time and getting their hopes up for no good reason, but also the interviewer's time.

I still think your best bet is to spend your time by-passing the gatekeepers and find a job through personal contact through a network. You need someone who knows you, trusts you, and is willing to go to bat for you to get a job someplace. Because this process that I continue to hear about I think is draining for the candidates and I'm not convinced they are getting a better person by going through all these extra steps.
It is strange that an interviewer should mention the "30 resumes" and what they are doing. It is none of the job candidate's business to know this. It may be an intimidation tactic to give the appearance that there are so many good matches for the position that the candidate would settle for a lower salary having found out how "fortunate" he or she is in being selected from a multitude of ideal candidates.

I can give an example of something similar happening to me where the intent was to limit my potential salary. I went on a job interview. The secretary said that I should go ahead and enter the interviewer's office. Upon entering, I saw a man sitting at his desk, looking at a piece of paper. As I entered, he made no acknowledgement that I had entered. Did not say hello or make any eye contact. He kept staring at that paper while I stood in front of him. I wasn't sure that he knew that I entered his office. Perhaps he was deaf and couldn't hear me? Some time went by. Then the man angrily crumpled up the paper and threw it in a garbage can. Then he looked at me and said loudly and angrily "That last guy wanted too much money!"

It was none of my business to know about other job candidates. His behaviour was totally unprofessional and of course was a tactic to discourage me from expecting a decent salary. At the end of the interview, he offered me the job (this was back in 1985 where decisions were made quickly). However, he offered me LESS than what I made at my current job! I tried not to laugh, ended the interview in a professional manner and declined the job. Later on in the company of some friends we did laugh, and how!
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