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Old 12-28-2018, 11:24 AM
 
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The IT world is being overtaken by the idea of collaboration. Agile methodology advocates for workers to be co-located to facilitate open communication when developing. The model scrum meeting is a group of folks standing in a corner for 15 minutes a day discussing their development work.

Gotta justify the existence of worthless middle management positions.
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Old 01-30-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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The IT world is being overtaken by the idea of collaboration. Agile methodology advocates for workers to be co-located to facilitate open communication when developing. The model scrum meeting is a group of folks standing in a corner for 15 minutes a day discussing their development work.


Big companies like Google and Microsoft aren't on the remote bandwagon. HP was but they've pulled back from remote work in recent years.
So are other industries. Two different companies I've worked for have called people back into the office in the name of "COLLABORATION."

It makes me want to scream.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:40 PM
 
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So are other industries. Two different companies I've worked for have called people back into the office in the name of "COLLABORATION."

It makes me want to scream.
Collaboration, shmelaboration. That is just an excuse for bringing people back into the office since they are no longer trusted to work from home. It was once more fashionable to allow people to work from home, but now all of a sudden they want people to collaborate. Well then, why was remote work allowed to begin with? And with the march of technology, it is easier than ever to collaborate with people remotely.
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Old 01-31-2019, 01:56 PM
 
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Collaboration, shmelaboration. That is just an excuse for bringing people back into the office since they are no longer trusted to work from home. It was once more fashionable to allow people to work from home, but now all of a sudden they want people to collaborate. Well then, why was remote work allowed to begin with? And with the march of technology, it is easier than ever to collaborate with people remotely.
Totally agree. They may as well call it "indirect layoffs" because so many people quit (or will quit) as a result. It's a nefarious way to cut headcount without paying for unemployment benefits, exit packages, etc.

Corporate America is sickening.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Collaboration, shmelaboration. That is just an excuse for bringing people back into the office since they are no longer trusted to work from home. It was once more fashionable to allow people to work from home, but now all of a sudden they want people to collaborate. Well then, why was remote work allowed to begin with? And with the march of technology, it is easier than ever to collaborate with people remotely.
I'm a business analyst.

90% of what I do is conducted via emails, Skype, or WebEx meetings. Recalling telecommmuters into the office is just a way to put the workers under the thumb. The technology for effective telecommuting has been in place for over a decade.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:06 PM
 
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I'm a business analyst.

90% of what I do is conducted via emails, Skype, or WebEx meetings. Recalling telecommmuters into the office is just a way to put the workers under the thumb. The technology for effective telecommuting has been in place for over a decade.
And that same technology can and will be used to offshore your job to a third world country, where the pay is a fraction of what you're making.

I'm not surprised companies demand their highly paid employees come into the office. I don't defend it, I think it is just another corrupt double standard (US Citizens no work from home for you! But someone in ThirdWorldistan, can work from home all he wants!)
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Old 02-06-2019, 02:23 PM
 
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And that same technology can and will be used to offshore your job to a third world country, where the pay is a fraction of what you're making.

I'm not surprised companies demand their highly paid employees come into the office. I don't defend it, I think it is just another corrupt double standard (US Citizens no work from home for you! But someone in ThirdWorldistan, can work from home all he wants!)
Ironically, my company is doing this too - offshoring to India. Even creating a "Company XYZ India". All the talk of how important their employees are, how much of a family we try to be....hogwash. They'll get NOTHING out of me but the bare minimum from now until I retire.
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Old 02-06-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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Ironically, my company is doing this too - offshoring to India. Even creating a "Company XYZ India". All the talk of how important their employees are, how much of a family we try to be....hogwash. They'll get NOTHING out of me but the bare minimum from now until I retire.
It was exactly the same situation for me in my last IT job. My company was offshoring to India in the same manner.
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Old 02-08-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: League City
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I think the truth about offshoring for software development lies somewhere in the middle, and it is a moving target that ebbs and flows with the economy like waves on a beach. In the early 2000's I read "My Job Went to India: 52 Ways to Save Your Job" and promptly freaked out at the impending doom. I live in a major city with several Fortune 500 headquarters, and luckily the ominous prophecy never really happened here. From what I have read, there was backlash at outsourcing due to thing like quality of work and communication barriers due to distance and social customs. So while offshoring still occurs, it isn't as widespread as predicted. And there are still lots of developer job openings all the time here in Texas.
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Old 06-02-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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As a Lead developer and now manager in an organization that has a few remote employees, it looks great on paper but doesn't work in reality. The only reason why we have remote employees is because they offer a skill set or niche knowledge base that is difficult to find in all locales (and they are located too far for commute). There is a good reason why many large tech companies that have tried/open to the idea of 100% remote working are now moving away from it.

We do allow part time remote employees... I have been with the company since its inception (I have seniority) and even I have to be in the office to be effective/productive. I only work from home on Fridays or when family obligations require me to be home.


The key here is that you have to be top of your game.... offer something so compelling that a company is willing to work/manage your time as a remote employee. This also means projects that you own on your own with little collaboration. Most people I know at this level of expertise are not interested in full time employment but rather are a corp-to-corp as they've built a business from this skill set.
Telepresence was a big deal in the 90s. Do you see that making a return?
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