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Old 03-14-2019, 09:02 AM
 
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I am in the process of interviewing for a position that I was asked to apply for by the person hiring for it. The salary range is 60-75k, full time, 42.5 hours a week, with full benefits. I have almost 20 years of experience in my field, doing a wide range of things they are looking for, with the highest level of education preferred for the position from a top school. I currently make just under 75k doing contract work from home but that only takes me about 30 hours a week. Can I expect to be able to negotiate up to that top number? This would be an excellent career move for me, but my husband recently took a large pay cut so we could relocate and have a better family life balance. We have a large family, and I'm not willing to lose the convenience of working from home as well as income.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:06 AM
 
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You can certainly try to negotiate, but you should not expect anything. Every employer has their own way of doing things.
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Old 03-14-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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Sorry, I should have worded it better. If that is the range, are employers generally ever expecting to pay the highest amount?
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:45 AM
 
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Sorry, I should have worded it better. If that is the range, are employers generally ever expecting to pay the highest amount?
How did you get that range number for the position? Did the hiring manager or HR in the company give that to you? Or was it posted with the job description?

Given your experience and current salary, I would ask for $75K, if that is acceptable to you. Always ask for the higher number, because they will always try to lower the number, but they won't raise it.

You said contract, is this a W2 contract?

Does this prospective job have other compensation other than the base salary, such as a bonus?
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Old 03-14-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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I am in the process of interviewing for a position that I was asked to apply for by the person hiring for it. The salary range is 60-75k, full time, 42.5 hours a week, with full benefits. I have almost 20 years of experience in my field, doing a wide range of things they are looking for, with the highest level of education preferred for the position from a top school. I currently make just under 75k doing contract work from home but that only takes me about 30 hours a week. Can I expect to be able to negotiate up to that top number? This would be an excellent career move for me, but my husband recently took a large pay cut so we could relocate and have a better family life balance. We have a large family, and I'm not willing to lose the convenience of working from home as well as income.
In general if someone from HR gives you a range, they are hoping to pay somewhere in the middle of that range or a little higher. But there are circumstances where they will go to the higher end of the range. As always, you have to ask for what you want.

In your example, if someone only has a couple of years experience, they can't expect the higher end of the range.

Just curious, how did they come up with 42.5 hours a week? Is this a private sector job?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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In that case I would say no, they are generally not expecting to pay at the top of the range, nor do they generally need to, but I have seen it happen in order to hire the person they really wanted for the position.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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Even if you could get the top of the range, why you would want to work an extra 12.5 hours a week for the same amount of money?
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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I am assuming you are a 1099 contractor and paying full social security taxes at the self-employment rate so in valuing compensation it may not be apples to apples; not to mention other benefits, if of value to you.

You can certainly request the top of the range but you may get asked if you are flexible. Your experience and education may justify the top of the range. The main issue is whether there are employees in the job classification and how their salaries compare given comparable experience. Many employers are concerned about internal equity and will not pay a salary that exceeds the peer group unless there is sufficient justification.
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Old 03-14-2019, 11:33 AM
 
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You'll never get more than you ask for. Also, while HR 'handles' the negotiation, they don't make the final decisions. Did you inform the hiring manager of your expectations?

When money/benefits comes up, consider this approach: "I'm making $75K now for about 30-hours work ... and, as much as I'm really excited about and want this job, I'm sure you can understand my preference to not to take a step backward - especially with 20-years experience." -- That will give you the flexibility to compromise on benefits, but, they may offer you the full package +.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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I am in the process of interviewing for a position that I was asked to apply for by the person hiring for it. The salary range is 60-75k, full time, 42.5 hours a week, with full benefits. I have almost 20 years of experience in my field, doing a wide range of things they are looking for, with the highest level of education preferred for the position from a top school. I currently make just under 75k doing contract work from home but that only takes me about 30 hours a week. Can I expect to be able to negotiate up to that top number? This would be an excellent career move for me, but my husband recently took a large pay cut so we could relocate and have a better family life balance. We have a large family, and I'm not willing to lose the convenience of working from home as well as income.
The recruiters will often need executive approval to above the mid range. For that approval, they need provide a justification such as a competing offer.

Line up a 2nd job offer for $71-72k, and they will come out at $73-74k to beat it.

If you get 2-3 offers it's even easier.
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