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Old 03-07-2009, 09:00 PM
 
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:13 AM
 
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IBM has be using/reusing people as "contractors" since the 90s--it is certainly no respector of persons-
but most people know that in that sector--don't know any large company that is a "mother-hen" type anymore...
even when you DO produce, you can be booted...
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:28 AM
 
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You could say that many/most americans corporations esp. those involved in IT and computers - have really gone down the toilet as far as how they treat their employees.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:40 AM
 
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Yes, that is the market model, when you are on the top of the world bread basket, you treat your employees well, but when there is strong world competition, then the market model, says you treat your employees like toliet dispensers, if you can get away with it....

I remember when I was at Wells Fargo Bank, many people I would listen to would get on their hind legs about how union people were lazy and quote how many policeman, city/government employee does it take to turn a lightbulb or complain about the flaggers making 16 bucks an hour to flag cars...

but...now people are starting to see the wisdom of unions...with so many people out of work
but...this is not to say that there are not loads of union people out of work, they are.

just a thought...
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Old 03-08-2009, 12:03 PM
 
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Yes, that is the market model, when you are on the top of the world bread basket, you treat your employees well, but when there is strong world competition, then the market model, says you treat your employees like toliet dispensers, if you can get away with it....

I remember when I was at Wells Fargo Bank, many people I would listen to would get on their hind legs about how union people were lazy and quote how many policeman, city/government employee does it take to turn a lightbulb or complain about the flaggers making 16 bucks an hour to flag cars...

but...now people are starting to see the wisdom of unions...with so many people out of work
but...this is not to say that there are not loads of union people out of work, they are.

just a thought...
You made a couple of good points. I'll add to that saying that unions may indeed see a revitalization. After decades of decline, it may come full circle. With the economy in the state that it's in, decreasing size of the middle class and sending of American jobs overseas the conditions are ripe for a resurgence.

I've always been against unions and frequently quoted the typical stereotypes, but no more. It will be a tough fight to substantially increase union membership since the large corporations will bring out the big guns along with their shills in Congress.
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Outside of Los Angeles
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You could say that many/most americans corporations esp. those involved in IT and computers - have really gone down the toilet as far as how they treat their employees.
That's a great point. When I was working for Countrywide before the office in our area was closed down, our new Regional VP kept on telling us things like "Oh don't worry about it, everything's going to be fine. Its a fresh start."

He said that at a time when the housing market crash was occurring. As soon as we were transferred to a new office, three weeks later, a bunch of the employees including myself were laid off just like that, all the while Countrywide was lying to us, saying that things were fine when they were not.

Countrywide is not a good company to work for and I wouldn't even go back to work for them if they wanted me to, never again would I work for them.

Many corporations don't really care about their employees, they just care about $$ that's it and that's really sad
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:30 PM
 
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Yeah it is all about the big boys getting their bonuses and their rolls royces you know. Customers suffer, because the cost cutting does not bring down the prices for them, service is considered "not value added", i.e. they only have it because they must... former employees suffer, current employees suffer - but they get theirs.
Actually to get back on topic - The aldi chain is opening up stores all over here and are hiring at a pretty decent wage for a store. (I have heard iffy things about working for aldi - but I am convinced that all jobs are kinda crummy now. )
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Old 08-07-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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Hiring, staff turnover aren't what they were before the recession - latimes.com
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:29 PM
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stay away from non-profit jobs
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Old 08-07-2013, 12:41 PM
 
Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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stay away from non-profit jobs
That's not true of all non profits by any stretch and you should be more specific in your admonition. You're basing your comment on your own particular and limited experience with low echelon state-funded non profits which started feeling the pinch several years ago. As funding was inexorably reduced and in many cases cut completely, many of these agencies consolidated and many closed. There are privately funded and operated not for profit organizations which are entirely different from those you're referring to.
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