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No! I think you are right! You were thrown and instead of being knocked down you actually can't be beaten because you have lots of networks, friends and people who will rave about you!
Believe me, If this happened to me, I would be extremely unhappy! But after that I would have to come up with an alternative plan.
I imagine you must have had some idea, if you had a friend "testing" the water, hmmm
Good luck! You sound as if you are well rounded and don't put your eggs in one basket!
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Lol unfortunately, this was my only job, but I moved around a lot as the company grew from a start up to a mid market competitor.
When I got laid off, I immediately started volunteering for the Alzheimer's foundation and I am doing more true marketing (which I love) for them. I already have two great references lined up from that organization. It's just my ex-boss rattled me with a less than stellar reference.
Maybe I can use a real estate broker in NYC that I help with doing marketing best practices and neighborhood demographic shifts?
This will give me three good references and one reference from HR at my old company. Am I over thinking this?
I had my friend call up my old boss yesterday afternoon and he said he wouldn't hire me back (why, I have not a clue). He also said my position was cut due to job performance (again, not true. HR said my position was one of those eliminated due to downsizing, and was always given glowing reviews). So after hearing this, I called up the VP of HR and she said she can be used as the reference, but all she can do is verify years employed and beginning/ending salary.
Will this prove to be a negative against me since I am now just giving HR as a reference?
Don't refer any potential employers to your boss. Just don't. He will ruin your chances to get a job and you wont even know what happend. There are people like that and there is nothing you can do, except not referring to him. That is nothing illegal and you cant complain when getting a bad reference. How will you make him recommend you? Actually in most cases you will not be aware of anything like that happening.
A bad reference is the worst thing you can experience in job hunting. I know about people that wanted to help a candidate, but said (unintentionally) something which hurt the candidate more then helped:
"Yes, Joe is a great guy who works best when left alone in his office (it was for a position dealing with public all day)"
Yeah I axed both my boss and his boss (my former boss) from the reference list. My guess is that I challenged (and I use that word very loosely) them both when I was working on a marketing project and saw they were trying to take a potential client over the coals by padding the prices in a presentation.
All I did was ask why she was going to be charged for "X" services when all she wanted was "Y" services. From that point on, they were both very distant from me until the buyout when everyone was cutting one another throats for position and needed allies.
I will just use the VP of HR and call it a day with those goons. I have a few other references from past projects and my volunteering gig that I will use instead.
Good luck!! You will do fine, if you keep those dishes spinning in the air!!
Staying busy helps me!! remain optimistic!
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Originally Posted by DowntownJerseyCity
Yeah I axed both my boss and his boss (my former boss) from the reference list. My guess is that I challenged (and I use that word very loosely) them both when I was working on a marketing project and saw they were trying to take a potential client over the coals by padding the prices in a presentation.
All I did was ask why she was going to be charged for "X" services when all she wanted was "Y" services. From that point on, they were both very distant from me until the buyout when everyone was cutting one another throats for position and needed allies.
I will just use the VP of HR and call it a day with those goons. I have a few other references from past projects and my volunteering gig that I will use instead.
There are a number of companies that will check your references for a small fee and then send you a report. They may record the call.
If the ex boss says all these negative things to these companies I would call the old boss up and tell them what you have found out. Attempt to work out an arrangement and if that does not work have an attorney write a letter to the company demanding a neutral reference or a law suit will occur.
Google the term: Check my employment references
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