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Old 05-10-2009, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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So let me ask you this, tomorrow will make two weeks since my 2nd interview and I have not heard anything or received a rejection letter. But I forgot to ask when A decision will be made while I was there so do most companies usually forget about the people they are not selecting and never send a rejection letter? Now like I said I forgot to ask so they could have been interviewing the rest of the week.
I don't know about other hiring managers but I don't mind at all when interviewees contact me to ask how our decision-making process is going...in fact, I invite them to email me to ask. I think it is quite rude if a company brings you in for an interview and then doesn't let you know their hiring decision. Sometimes, though, it takes us literally months to get through the entire interviewing and decision-making process. It is hard to get all the participating staff together for the interviews so sometimes a week or so will go by between interviews and then we all have to meet to discuss the candidates and then we have processes for approval from HR and upper management and the whole thing can seem like it takes forever. Candidates who stay nice through the waiting period definitely get noticed as good team players vs. candidates who seem completely annoyed and impatient. I joke that there are two types of time: hiring manager time and job seeker time. The two types of time exist in parallel universes. To a job seeker, two weeks feels like forever. To a hiring manager, two weeks can fly by and you are scrambling to get everything done (interviewing, reference checks, compensation review by HR, final approval from top management, etc.) so you can notify the candidates of your decisions.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:25 PM
 
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T.V.Guy,,,, I understand that you are asking Topaz, as someone who hires people.

but i think you should follow your decision of yesterday and just call them tomorrow, asking when they will be making a decision. Then Listen!!

Then if you get the right person, say, I have received another job offer., but since your company is my top choice, I wanted to touch base with you, to make the right decision. And then Listen.'

Then thank them and hang up.

others may think differently, but that is what I would do!

p.s. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:30 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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I don't know about other hiring managers but I don't mind at all when interviewees contact me to ask how our decision-making process is going...in fact, I invite them to email me to ask. I think it is quite rude if a company brings you in for an interview and then doesn't let you know their hiring decision. Sometimes, though, it takes us literally months to get through the entire interviewing and decision-making process. It is hard to get all the participating staff together for the interviews so sometimes a week or so will go by between interviews and then we all have to meet to discuss the candidates and then we have processes for approval from HR and upper management and the whole thing can seem like it takes forever. Candidates who stay nice through the waiting period definitely get noticed as good team players vs. candidates who seem completely annoyed and impatient. I joke that there are two types of time: hiring manager time and job seeker time. The two types of time exist in parallel universes. To a job seeker, two weeks feels like forever. To a hiring manager, two weeks can fly by and you are scrambling to get everything done (interviewing, reference checks, compensation review by HR, final approval from top management, etc.) so you can notify the candidates of your decisions.

Yeah I decided to call tomorrow because I'm scheduled to start another job on the 18th and wanted to know before I start beczuse I don't want to be a person who just quits after a week or two because I got the offer I wanted. Small part of me felt it was a good sign that I didn't get a rejection letter yet but that could mean they just forgot-lol And like I said the other job is not going to wait around for me while I wait on this job to offer me the position.

BTW: The company that wants is further away and the one I want is 10 min up the street-lol
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:34 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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T.V.Guy,,,, I understand that you are asking Topaz, as someone who hires people.

but i think you should follow your decision of yesterday and just call them tomorrow, asking when they will be making a decision. Then Listen!!

Then if you get the right person, say, I have received another job offer., but since your company is my top choice, I wanted to touch base with you, to make the right decision. And then Listen.'

Then thank them and hang up.

others may think differently, but that is what I would do!

p.s. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush!
I wasn't even going to even mention anything about having another offer, I'm just basically calling as a curious job applicant and if the answer is no then I will ask for a time frame-lol
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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T.V.Guy,,,, I understand that you are asking Topaz, as someone who hires people.

but i think you should follow your decision of yesterday and just call them tomorrow, asking when they will be making a decision. Then Listen!!

Then if you get the right person, say, I have received another job offer., but since your company is my top choice, I wanted to touch base with you, to make the right decision. And then Listen.'

Then thank them and hang up.

others may think differently, but that is what I would do!
This sounds like good advice to me. I don't know the full story for TVandSportsGuy because I haven't read the previous posts but I would want to know if one of our finalists was about to accept another offer because our decision was taking so long. I haven't yet been in this position with my current company and I don't know if I could speed things up but I would sure try.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:40 PM
 
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I was recently unemployed for about 5-1/2 months. I spent a good 8 hours a day doing employment related tasks. Research, phone calls, resumes, emails, seminars, etc. I tweaked my resume for every single job I applied to because I took out things that were absolutely not mentioned in the ad. I also wrote a custom cover letter for every single job. I would never bother to apply for a job unless I had 90% of the qualifications asked for. But there are so many people out of work, there is always that one person who had that one qualification that I did not have.

The OP brings up some good points. The main thing that my unemployment support group told us though, is to make sure you spend time on yourself, mainly getting out, exercising (#1 thing!), interfacing with people, meeting for coffee (not lunch because you're broke remember?) networking, going to the library, etc. Take care of yourself and your appearance. Very important to not let your self esteem go to h*ll.

I applied for 175 jobs, went on 20 interviews and callbacks. Finally got a job and glad to have it.
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Old 05-10-2009, 08:41 PM
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Location: Tall Building down by the river
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This sounds like good advice to me. I don't know the full story for TVandSportsGuy because I haven't read the previous posts but I would want to know if one of our finalists was about to accept another offer because our decision was taking so long. I haven't yet been in this position with my current company and I don't know if I could speed things up but I would sure try.

That's why I should have said 2 weeks notice but was wondering if I would kill my chances so I said one week which was the 18th. That way I would have had a little more cushion but I need a answer for sure this week-lol
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:04 PM
 
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Congrats Gardener! I hope that it is working out these past three months! It sounds like it is. ;-)


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I was recently unemployed for about 5-1/2 months. I spent a good 8 hours a day doing employment related tasks. Research, phone calls, resumes, emails, seminars, etc. I tweaked my resume for every single job I applied to because I took out things that were absolutely not mentioned in the ad. I also wrote a custom cover letter for every single job. I would never bother to apply for a job unless I had 90% of the qualifications asked for. But there are so many people out of work, there is always that one person who had that one qualification that I did not have.

The OP brings up some good points. The main thing that my unemployment support group told us though, is to make sure you spend time on yourself, mainly getting out, exercising (#1 thing!), interfacing with people, meeting for coffee (not lunch because you're broke remember?) networking, going to the library, etc. Take care of yourself and your appearance. Very important to not let your self esteem go to h*ll.

I applied for 175 jobs, went on 20 interviews and callbacks. Finally got a job and glad to have it.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:34 PM
 
Location: roaming gnome
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When I was job hunting recently...
Basically I got up in the morning, drank coffee, then spent about 2 hours looking through dice, craigslist, monster, careerbuilder, state employment etc. at about 9-11am. After that... I forgot about it for the next day.

I much prefer hard bursts of working, then relax though... than kina dreading looking stressing out skimming job postings all day.

If you are unemployed start growing a garden so you don't have to spend much money on food anymore.
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Old 05-10-2009, 09:35 PM
 
Location: southern california
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very good post. you got rep. very helpful.
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