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Most of the gatherings I attend probably are not to your kosher standards Walter. But when I go to the conservative synagogue and bring food it is kosher and in an unopened package...........
But you did not tell me anything I did not already know.....
When I go to Chabad they have their own food......
Why are some dill pickles not kosher and other's not. It's something with the salt content, no?
The ones labelled "Kosher" have extra garlic and should really be called "Jewish" not "Kosher".
If you look elsewhere on the label, you will probably see the symbol of a kosher certifying agency on the dill pickles that are not labelled "Kosher".
For the list of symbols used by the several kosher certifying agencies that certify a product as kosher, go to Kashrus Agencies
I think that goes back to the NYC Kosher Delis. The Jewish pickles became popular with the non-Jewish population and since they came from Kosher Delis they became being called Kosher. I guess some people thought it was related to flavor and not religion.
But I do agree it would be very difficult for somebody to make a pickle that is not Kosher or Halal for that matter. some foods are just difficult to make forbidden.
Trivia: most Kosher foods, including the pickles, are Halal for Muslims.
What I do take issue with, however, is when modern poskim issue a psak that is in direct conflict with the older opinions of Rav's greater in stature than these modern poskim could ever dream to be.
"they were giants and we are dwarves, but we see further than they because we sit on their shoulders"
I do not believe that the poskim of the past would have wanted all their opinions etched in stone, for all time, even if no greater poskim arose.
You are correct, jazzymom. Some of the fences have fences around them, and I'll admit I tend to gravitate to those chumras. Yet you must agree that some of the fences are too broad and are not actually guarding anything. Just because some (or many) Jews decide to follow those broad liberal fences, doesn't mean that was the ichur of the halacha. Can you see that?
the problem is when the chumras
A. deter people from halacha, or bring the halacha into disrepute. Or drive away people raised in observant homes
B. get people so focused on chumras that they neglect derech eretz, chillul hashem, etc - something we see every day, Im afraid
They may well be kosher, but they are not certified kosher.
You are correct. Some are in fact treyf, some may not be, but one has no way of knowing (well unless you contact the firm in question, whatever)
One must judge with regard to where one is.
My DW and i regularly buy soy milk. While there is parve soy milk available its not convenient where we live - the soy milke we buy is OU-D. However it is made without dairy ingredients - it is milchig because it was made on shared equipment with dairy.
Since we are not yet strict about seperation of utensils and dishes in our house anyway, as far as I am concerned it makes sense to treat it as if it were parve. Parve with an asterisk if you like.
A. deter people from halacha, or bring the halacha into disrepute. Or drive away people raised in observant homes
B. get people so focused on chumras that they neglect derech eretz, chillul hashem, etc - something we see every day, Im afraid
C. Take away the joy of serving Hashem
D. create needless bad feelings between Jews
I would agree with all 4 points you make there, BBD. My Rav tells me I should take on a chumra (a stringency for those of you following along) if and only when performing the chumra will bring me great joy in observing the mitzvah.
I'm a 20-year vegetarian (Although I do eat dairy), and so being cholov yisroel is a chumra I have not taken on, as it would cause me misery to keep it.
If from an already open package taken from your kitchen, the parve or pareve is no longer kosher.
Thats very fencey. I can eat a slice of pizza two feet away from the fleyshig dishes, and they stay fleyshig. Why, if I open up a tub of hummus two feet from trey dishes, does the hummus become treyf? I mean sure, I expect there is a posek who said so, and I expect the posek wanted to discourage jews from having (or eating from) treyf kitchens - but a fence is to make it less likely we eat treyf - it does not actually render kosher food treyf, IIUC.
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