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Being a Jew is illegal = not Kosher...See how that works?...
My point is that to be a kosher Jew (that is follow halachah Jewish law) i dont do something if it is illegal in the land I am presiding in.
The example under discussion was illegal recreational drug use.
However now Pruz has given an example and got me thinking There are plenty of times we as Jews do break the civil law to fulfill Torah. Rabbi Akiva and others throughout the centuries taught Torah, all across Russia Jews risked their lives to teach Torah with underground schools.
So can we hear more from those knowledgable in halachah on that? Is it that we can break the law to fulfill Torah?
So how does that work in those countries? How do Jews in those countries get kosher meat? If I am understanding correctly what you are saying that kosher schechting is illegal in those countries. What do Jews do? This is fascinating.
My point is that to be a kosher Jew (that is follow halachah Jewish law) i dont do something if it is illegal in the land I am presiding in.
The example under discussion was illegal recreational drug use.
However now Pruz has given an example and got me thinking There are plenty of times we as Jews do break the civil law to fulfill Torah. Rabbi Akiva and others throughout the centuries taught Torah, all across Russia Jews risked their lives to teach Torah with underground schools.
So can we hear more from those knowledgable in halachah on that? Is it that we can break the law to fulfill Torah?
See?...This is what I mean...Where do we draw the line?...
I have read that, at times, we must break Torah in order to uphold a higher Torah...Like saving a life...
"In the case of marijuana, this means that its nation-wide ban overrules the legality within states, and the "law of the land" is that it is illegal.... it is still illegal all over the country.
"Therefore, the rules of Dina Demalchuta alone are enough to prohibit the smoking of marijuana in the United States. And in general, for the purpose of determining what the Dina Demalchuta is when state law contradicts federal law, federal law is the law of the land."
According to halachah
And also according to secular law. That's why federal hospitals do not dispense or prescribe even medical marijuana. It is violation of a federal law. On federal employees:
"Marijuana may be legal now in the District of Columbia, but the hundreds of thousands of federal workers in the nation’s capital and other locales that now allow recreational use of the drug should think twice before sparking up that joint.
"An executive order dating back to the Reagan administration prohibits federal employees from using illegal drugs, on or off duty. And though recreational pot is now legal in the District — as well as [some states] — the prohibition still applies to the ranks of federal workers who live there.
“The federal law prohibits marijuana use,” said R. Scott Oswald, managing principal at The Employment Law Group P.C. “Say you work for DOD [the Department of Defense] in D.C., the fact that it’s legal has no bearing at all for the federal worker.”
No...the federal law does not overide state law...
No...the federal law does not overide state law...
It's a federal offense Richard. It doesn't get any simpler than that. These are criminal lawyers providing this information in the articles. Are you going to call them lemmings?
"Any marijuana possession, cultivation, or use is a federal crime."
It's a federal offense Richard. It doesn't get any simpler than that. These are criminal lawyers providing this information in the articles. Are you going to call them lemmings?
"Any marijuana possession, cultivation, or use is a federal crime."
Maybe do a little study on state law vs. Federal law...Yes, if you work for a Federal agency, it is illegal....But, the Federal government cannot tell the state's what to do...
Maybe do a little study on state law vs. Federal law...Yes, if you work for a Federal agency, it is illegal....But, the Federal government cannot tell the state's what to do...
It's a federal offense even if you don't work for the federal government.
"Any marijuana possession, cultivation, or use is a federal crime."
Maybe do a little study on state law vs. Federal law...Yes, if you work for a Federal agency, it is illegal....But, the Federal government cannot tell the state's what to do...
Yup I did
Here's what I found.
"The law that applies to situations where state and federal laws disagree is called the supremacy clause, which is part of article VI of the Constitution. The supremacy clause contains what’s known as the doctrine of pre-emption, which says that the federal government wins in the case of conflicting legislation. Basically, if a federal and state law contradict, then when you’re in the state you can follow the state law, but the feds can decide to stop you. When there is a conflict between a state law and federal law, it is the federal law that prevails. For example, if a federal regulation prohibits the use of medical marijuana, but a state regulation allows it, the federal law prevails.
"At the federal level there is the Controlled Substances Act, which classifies marijuana as a Schedule I substance. This act considers pot to have a high potential for dependency and no accepted medical use, making distribution of marijuana a federal offense. In October of 2009, the Obama Administration sent a memo to federal prosecutors encouraging them not to prosecute people who distribute marijuana for medical purposes in accordance with state law. So what happens when you get caught with the green bud in a state that allows it (for now let’s say medicinally)?
"Gerald Duval Jr thought his Michigan pot farm was protected under state law — then the feds came. Now, he will soon serve a 10-year prison sentence for breaking the U.S. government’s marijuana regulations. "
How about you Richard what have you come up with in your research?
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