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Old 08-08-2019, 09:14 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So, what was the final consensus of opinion on the word חבונה, its possible English transliteration, and its possible use as a feminine name? Here's what I've gotten so far:

1. The word means "wisdom" or, perhaps more specifically, "discernment." (This I already knew.)

2. The word appears in Torah, in Devarim 32:28 (I provided a link in a previous post.)

3. Rosends has transliterated the word as "Havana" (Chavana)? As well as provided a dictionary link for it.

4. Pruzhany found something like it in the book Biblical Baby Names for Today in the form of "Chavonna." (Although I wouldn't completely trust the name meanings given in most baby name books.)

So, are we done here? I'd already decided to include this Hebrew word in a names list I'm compiling, but I'm still undecided as to how to transliterate it for speakers of English.

Thanks for all help given thus far! I greatly appreciate it!
The connection I made was to the word T'vunah כִּי־ג֛וֹי אֹבַ֥ד עֵצ֖וֹת הֵ֑מָּה וְאֵ֥ין בָּהֶ֖ם תְּבוּנָֽה׃
For they are a folk void of sense, Lacking in all discernment.

The first letter should be a tav, not a chet which is how you have it written. It, as t'vunah is related to the word Havana. What you wrote is not transliterated or connected to Havana in any way.

 
Old 08-08-2019, 09:58 AM
 
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The connection I made was to the word T'vunah כִּי־ג֛וֹי אֹבַ֥ד עֵצ֖וֹת הֵ֑מָּה וְאֵ֥ין בָּהֶ֖ם תְּבוּנָֽה׃
For they are a folk void of sense, Lacking in all discernment.

The first letter should be a tav, not a chet which is how you have it written. It, as t'vunah is related to the word Havana. What you wrote is not transliterated or connected to Havana in any way.

Ah, I get it now. I misread the initial Hebrew letter. Many thanks, Rabbi!
 
Old 08-08-2019, 12:25 PM
 
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Reminder: This subforum is about Judaism, and this thread is for asking questions of Jews about their religion. Please stay on topic.
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Red River Texas
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It is her forum, it's a family.

There are only a handful of people here, and until Mother Rachel and a couple others came, nobody hardly ever spoke in here, because it is just a handful of people who share a common interest.

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Old 08-09-2019, 10:33 AM
 
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Once again, I will not respond further to you until a Mod checks this out. If you don't like the fact that I defer to the decisions of the Moderators rather than stick around and argue with you... Tuff.
We're going to close this thread so no more posts will be made while the moderators get the mess cleaned up. We'll reopen it later, probably today.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Eastern Washington
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This may have already been covered, but why are Kosher foods denoted with a "U" inside a circle? Sometimes this is replaced with a "K" in a circle, which makes sense. Does the Hebrew word for Kosher start with a "U" sound? Thanks.
 
Old 08-09-2019, 05:40 PM
 
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This may have already been covered, but why are Kosher foods denoted with a "U" inside a circle? Sometimes this is replaced with a "K" in a circle, which makes sense. Does the Hebrew word for Kosher start with a "U" sound? Thanks.

Both symbols mean that the product is kosher. The different symbols represent which organization has done the proper certifying of the product. I think there are several different organizations that do kosher certification. I don't know which one has the "K" symbol, but I do know that the "U" symbol is used by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations. The "K" and "U" symbols are the ones most commonly seen. You can probably Google up the complete list somewhere.
 
Old 08-10-2019, 10:03 PM
 
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This may have already been covered, but why are Kosher foods denoted with a "U" inside a circle? Sometimes this is replaced with a "K" in a circle, which makes sense. Does the Hebrew word for Kosher start with a "U" sound? Thanks.
Food that is kosher is supervised by agencies which are familiar with the laws regarding the ingredients and the preparation of the food. Different organizations use symbols to indicate their presence. The U in an O (the "OU") is a trademarked symbol of the Orthodox Union. https://oukosher.org/

The OK is a different organization Kosher certification and compliance | OK Kosher

There are plenty of others - some with symbols some not.
https://www.kashrut.com/agencies/
 
Old 08-11-2019, 06:47 AM
 
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Food that is kosher is supervised by agencies which are familiar with the laws regarding the ingredients and the preparation of the food. Different organizations use symbols to indicate their presence. The U in an O (the "OU") is a trademarked symbol of the Orthodox Union. https://oukosher.org/

The OK is a different organization Kosher certification and compliance | OK Kosher

There are plenty of others - some with symbols some not.
https://www.kashrut.com/agencies/

Ah, I knew you'd be able to provide that list of kosher certification organizations! Thank you, Rabbi!

I just want to add for Mitch that kosher restaurants also must have proper certification. It's not enough that they simply serve kosher food. A restaurant that I frequent is Ben's in Bayside, Queens, NY. They have their kosher certification prominently displayed in their front window. You can see a copy of it at this link:

https://www.bensdeli.net/kashrut-cer...big_plotkin-2/

You won't get a cheeseburger at Ben's. (I have a gentile friend that I brought there once, and I had to explain it to her when she asked if she could get a cheeseburger.)

Even though Ben's is absolutely kosher in food, practice, and cleanliness, I know a few Orthodox Jews who will not eat there because they adhere to far stricter rules. They will only eat in a place that is glatt kosher, which means that the meat served there comes from animals whose lungs have been scrupulously examined to be "smooth" and free of any lesions. (Glatt is a word that means "smooth".)
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