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Old 04-04-2013, 06:58 AM
 
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Depends. I'm not so interested in my kids getting too much secular influence in their lives. Of course, this limits them from spending too much time with about 85% of the Jews out there as well, so it's not specifically a non-Jewish thing.
We're obviously at different stages/levels of observance in our Judaism, but I'd feel much better overall having my kids play with any secular Jews than Christian kids, who in my experince have been prostheltizing to my kids and telling them they're not going to heaven if they don't accept *their* beliefs, and wonder constantly why we go to "church" on Saturday vs. Sunday ("It's just weird!"). The Christian boys also hunt and kill birds for "fun". Even the most secular Jews are still Jews and don't tend to engage in behavior which break our code of ethics.

Of course, there are always exceptions.

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Old 04-04-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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Depends. I'm not so interested in my kids getting too much secular influence in their lives. Of course, this limits them from spending too much time with about 85% of the Jews out there as well, so it's not specifically a non-Jewish thing.
I know in your other thread you stated you were orthodox. Are you modern orthodox or ultra orthodox? Also, is it common in your level of observance to have arranged marriages?
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Old 04-04-2013, 10:10 PM
 
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I know in your other thread you stated you were orthodox. Are you modern orthodox or ultra orthodox? Also, is it common in your level of observance to have arranged marriages?
I'm just a plain old fashioned orthodox Yid. And I've never once heard of an arranged marriage. That's SO fourteenth century.
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Old 04-05-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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I guess I was referring more to Shidduch
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Old 04-05-2013, 03:10 PM
 
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I guess I was referring more to Shidduch
Shidduchim happen all the time in my "world," but that's FAR from an arranged marriage. It's more like an "arranged date." Nobody is forced into any marriage where both parties are not a million percent consenting. People have to be careful with their word choice, as words can appear very loaded. There's a big gap between an arranged date and an arranged marriage.
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Old 04-06-2013, 05:16 PM
 
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As someone who briefly (in my childhood) was a Christian and never was a Jew, I have to say that I would feel it was an insult to say I was practicing in a way that honored the Jewish tradition. I honestly don't believe that if one wasn't raised in Judaism and/or hadn't practiced for a good, long time (we're talking in terms of years), that that person could say "My Christianity truly honors the Jews!"

I feel that lessens the amazing and very long tradition of Judaism. It's like going to Hawaii and putting on a lei and taking three hula lessons and then saying, "I'm proud to say I'm a real Hawaiian now!" That's just my personal take.

I also find it very, very weird when Christians "magnanimously" acknowledge, like, two or three Jewish traditions even though they've come to "superior" Christianity. What the...? Without Judaism there wouldn't be Christianity!

Again, just my personal take.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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JerZ - exactly.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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I'm just a plain old fashioned orthodox Yid. And I've never once heard of an arranged marriage. That's SO fourteenth century.

Im familiar with them among the hasidim - yes, the young people can turn down the match, but its much more than an arranged date. Exactly how much pressure there is to marry at that age, and to accept the suggested partner, will vary from family to family, from what i can see.
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Old 04-11-2013, 11:19 AM
 
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Ya that was my understanding as well
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Old 04-11-2013, 12:36 PM
 
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Im familiar with them among the hasidim - yes, the young people can turn down the match, but its much more than an arranged date. Exactly how much pressure there is to marry at that age, and to accept the suggested partner, will vary from family to family, from what i can see.
It's likely a VERY small population of Jews for which this applies. The Chasidim are a sub population among orthodox Jews, and at that, there are varying sub populations within the sub populations. The inflammatory nature of highlighting something like this harms ALL Jews.
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