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Old 07-02-2013, 02:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I sympathize with pegotty. It is for reasons like these that I hope to move to Daly City and join the Karaite synagogue there. The problem with Rabbinic Judaism is that there aren't enough choices. I believe that there are more than 3 ways to interpret the Torah, especially when 2 of them, Reform and Conservative, don't really respect the Torah in the first place. I believe that the dietary laws in the Torah were health codes, and that the fundamental idea that God wants us to eat healthy food has been lost. Now I am not saying that the traditional Orthodox interpretation is wrong, I am just saying that I think I have the right to decide questions like this for myself.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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I know that it is taken very seriously, but I'd like to know/understand if ordinances that were created for situations that don't exist anymore are ever removed from common practice.
Some are, some aren't. The poultry/milk thing is fundamental to kashrus. I empathize with the allergy restrictions you must contend with, but I don't see how keeping Kosher would make it harder. Maybe it's because I'm just lucky to have been brought up this way. You need not be afraid that somebody will starve, because there are allowances for people who are unable to tolerate certain foods. Experience has taught me that competent Rabbis not only guide one to doing the right thing, but are exceptionally helpful in finding practical solutions.

Hatzlacha in finding your way home.
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Old 07-02-2013, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I know that it is taken very seriously, but I'd like to know/understand if ordinances that were created for situations that don't exist anymore are ever removed from common practice.
No, in Jewish law there is a concept called "lo pelug" ("do not differentiate"). If chazal (the Sages of Blessed Memory) instituted broad sweeping rules, then they apply to all circumstances and no exceptions are allowed.

A famous example is why pets aren't allowed to be handled in Shabbat. The Sages declared that animals, which were primarily used for work purposes like driving chariots and tilling soil for farming, were muktzeh (items not to be handled on Shabbat). Despite the fact that we often view dogs and cats as family members who give us joy and happiness, we are not allowed to even touch them on Shabbat because of the rule about farm animals. Another example is yayin nesech: we aren't supposed to let non-Jews touch non-mevushal (unpasteurized wine) because of the danger that the wine may have been poured to an idol. Nowadays, the risk of the wine having been poured to an idol are practically zero, but the rule remains, and applies to ALL non-Jews and even Jews who are not observant to Orthodox standards.
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Some are, some aren't. The poultry/milk thing is fundamental to kashrus. I empathize with the allergy restrictions you must contend with, but I don't see how keeping Kosher would make it harder. Maybe it's because I'm just lucky to have been brought up this way. You need not be afraid that somebody will starve, because there are allowances for people who are unable to tolerate certain foods. Experience has taught me that competent Rabbis not only guide one to doing the right thing, but are exceptionally helpful in finding practical solutions.

Hatzlacha in finding your way home.
Thank you. :-)
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Old 07-02-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: small Southern town balabusta
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I sympathize with pegotty. It is for reasons like these that I hope to move to Daly City and join the Karaite synagogue there. The problem with Rabbinic Judaism is that there aren't enough choices. I believe that there are more than 3 ways to interpret the Torah, especially when 2 of them, Reform and Conservative, don't really respect the Torah in the first place. I believe that the dietary laws in the Torah were health codes, and that the fundamental idea that God wants us to eat healthy food has been lost. Now I am not saying that the traditional Orthodox interpretation is wrong, I am just saying that I think I have the right to decide questions like this for myself.
You're stating that Reform and Conservative don't respect the Torah, but you want to decide the interpretations yourself and if I recall correctly from a previous post, eat pig meat. Be careful with generalizations of others, please.
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