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Old 07-18-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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In short, do you believe your direct ancestor was non-human? Something like a monkey, a weasel, or a fish.

I think I read that only half of the people believe in evolution.

One of our Muslim posted said he believed in evolution for all plants and animals, but not for humans. I guess there are lots of differeent beliefs.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:44 PM
 
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I would feel foolish thinking I evolved from a monkey, since I can trace my lineage back to Adam haRishon and no further. Predictable, huh?

Evolution is not a Jewish concept. It's antithetical to Jewish belief. But I suspect a majority of Jews still believe in it. Probably about the same ratio of Jews who reject the Devine origen of the Torah.
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Old 07-18-2013, 09:49 PM
 
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No. One of the 13 pillars of Jewish faith is that G-d created the world. There are Jews who, for some reason, feel they need to reconcile evolution with the Jewish faith, and they seem to do so pretty well, but that's not conventional Jewish thought.

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Old 07-19-2013, 07:01 AM
 
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Predictable, huh?
No, not at all. I really had no idea how you guys would respond.
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Old 07-19-2013, 08:58 AM
 
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No, not at all. I really had no idea how you guys would respond.
That's surprising, considering that the Torah is the first place creation is ever mentioned.
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Old 07-19-2013, 09:27 AM
 
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That's surprising, considering that the Torah is the first place creation is ever mentioned.
So we surprise each other.

That is why I benefit from participating in this forum and you benefit from reading my posts.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:27 AM
 
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In short, do you believe your direct ancestor was non-human? Something like a monkey, a weasel, or a fish.

I think I read that only half of the people believe in evolution.

One of our Muslim posted said he believed in evolution for all plants and animals, but not for humans. I guess there are lots of differeent beliefs.
I'd say that the more fundamental (regardless of movement) will lean towards a literal Creation story while the more liberal (again, regardless of movement) will lean towards evolution. Most of modern Judaism seems to try to find room for both religious and secular (particularly scientific) truths.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:46 AM
 
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The only Jews I know who don't believe in evolution are Orthodox. All of the Conservative and Reform Jews I know do believe in it (myself included).
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:59 AM
 
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The only Jews I know who don't believe in evolution are Orthodox. All of the Conservative and Reform Jews I know do believe in it (myself included).
Which boils down to whoever believes in the divinity of the Torah believes that G-d created the world in 7 days, and whoever doesn't believe in the divinity of the Torah believes in whatever is the fad of the times--right now it's evolution. The disbelief in the divinity of the Torah always precedes the belief in evolution.

To back up JB, I am orthodox and believe that G-d created the world, including science.

As an aside, I have yet to read a reasonable explanation--not to mention, see for myself reasonable evidence (for those who keep on spewing the mantra of "mountains of evidence") of how human emotion evolved, for instance. I'm not even touching human intellect, or physical properties. In short, evolution makes no sense, scientifically or otherwise.

Raise your hand if you've ever seen something evolve?

Just for the record, I don't understand creation either, but I certainly would not worship a G-d who was on my level of understanding.
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Old 07-19-2013, 03:11 PM
 
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I remember when I was in 8th grade science class, the teacher was telling us about the theories of origins. We talked specifically about the Big Bang Theory and he commented that there were lots of theories, BBT was just one of them. I remember thinking at the time that I would like to hear more theories because that one sounded pretty far-fetched to me. My family wasn't religious at all. I didn't even know what a Bible was. The only religious book I had ever seen was a Haggada...and only remembered the Four Questions from that. When I did hear about G-d as a young teen (this was from Christians) I was instantly drawn to G-d and amazed at the idea of a Being who had all the answers and created everything that was. I guess I have always been a literal creationist because everything else just seems silly and not remotely possible.
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