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Old 07-28-2013, 01:49 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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I have an unusual question, please bare with me. I want to wear something to set myself apart from mainstream culture which I despise. I would like what I wear to also represent as well a possible my values. My values are closest to those found in the Hebrew Bible, but not in the Talmud. I am sympathetic to the Karaites but I don't believe that the Hebrew Bible is perfect (though it is quite close) and I don't believe in a supernatural god. So my question is, what should I wear?

I could just dress oddly and look like a clown. That would still be better than looking like part of mainstream society, but doesn't convey my values at all. The Torah specifically recommends wearing tzitzit which worked well when men wore robes with four corners, but doesn't work so well today. The kippah represents Orthodox Judaism in my mind, and I don't consider myself a Rabbinic Jew, but I still think Orthodox Jews have much better values than mainstream culture does, so I wouldn't be terribly offended by being associated with them. So my idea is to wear a kippah but somehow make it different enough so that Orthodox Jews realize that I am not an ordinary Orthodox Jew. I have a black kippah from the time when I did consider Orthodox Judaism, so I was thinking of sewing a blue rim on it, blue being the color that the Torah suggested for tzitzit. Is this odd enough? Does this idea generally make sense or can someone suggest something better?

 
Old 07-28-2013, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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If you a wear a kippah of any sort most people will think you are Jewish. Colorful kippahs are common outside of the ultra-orthodox movements.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 07:49 AM
 
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Unless you plan to avoid unkosher restaurants with 100% zealouness, do not, I repeat, do not wear a yarmulke in public. You would be doing your fellow Jews a terrible injustice.

If you wan to set yourself off from society, please don't do so by mocking your Jewishness.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Im starting to realize thatbthese outlandish posts are probably trolls.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Im starting to realize thatbthese outlandish posts are probably trolls.
I actually doubt most are by trolls. I find that people are really that naive about Judaism. Even some non-practicing Jews have little knowledge about Judaism.

I think it is because the majority of the English speaking world is Christian and attempts to relate all religion in terms of Christianity.

When a people are a majority they tend to avoid learning about any minorities. The result is some very bizarre ideas about minority religions.

Unless it is obvious a person is posting with a malicious intent, let us assume any question is an opportunity to clear a misconception.
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Old 07-28-2013, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Unless you plan to avoid unkosher restaurants with 100% zealouness, do not, I repeat, do not wear a yarmulke in public. You would be doing your fellow Jews a terrible injustice.

If you want to set yourself off from society, please don't do so by mocking your Jewishness.
Don't listen to this Zealot. I wear a solid black kippah nearly everywhere (except when I am in Arab countries - Personal safety) and I'm what would be considered conservadox. What he is saying is almost as bad as saying Muslims should not wear a kaffiyah when dining in a kosher restaurant. Yet while I was in Jerusalem a few weeks ago before Ramadan started Muslims were. Wear a kippah in any manner you wish as long as you understand why you are wearing in the first place.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 10:04 AM
 
Location: small Southern town balabusta
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Don't listen to this Zealot. .
Zealot, no. Observant, yes.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 10:28 AM
 
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I want to wear something to set myself apart from mainstream culture which I despise.
Is this a question for the Judaism forum?
 
Old 07-28-2013, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Zealot, no. Observant, yes.
Being FFB (Frum From Birth) is being Observant. Being BT (Baal Teshuva) and portraying oneself as more than FFB is a Zealot or a Frummer.


FYI: Keep in mind my version/vision of Frum are those that came directly from (or descendant of) Europe and never set foot or settled in the United States.
 
Old 07-28-2013, 11:48 AM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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Unless you plan to avoid unkosher restaurants with 100% zealouness, do not, I repeat, do not wear a yarmulke in public. You would be doing your fellow Jews a terrible injustice.

If you wan to set yourself off from society, please don't do so by mocking your Jewishness.
Do you have a better alternative to suggest?
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