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Old 08-20-2013, 09:42 AM
 
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Even though I have heard the joke about two Jews and three opinions, I didn't comprehend how much Jews could strongly disagree with each other, especially on topics like Zionism and the Holocaust.

So what Jews do you admire?

I have heard that Moses Maimonides was very special and the philosopher Spinoza was very admired, but that's about the only historical Jews that I am aware of. Yeah, it's been a long time since I read "Jews, God, and History", so I have forgotten a few things.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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I have heard that Moses Maimonides was very special and the philosopher Spinoza was very admired,
Neither of them were admired by Jews who kept the Torah.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:15 AM
 
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Neither of them were admired by Jews who kept the Torah.
Really? I expected that about Spinoza, but I thought that Mamonides was regarded more highly even within orthodox Judaism. I think I have seen theflipflop reference him several times...

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Old 08-20-2013, 11:34 AM
 
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Really? I expected that about Spinoza, but I thought that Mamonides was regarded more highly even within orthodox Judaism. I think I have seen theflipflop reference him several times...

-NoCapo
While the Rambam (Maimonides) is more likely to be revered by Sephardic Jews (I'm Ashkinazi), he was surely one of the greats. He'd make my top ten list of people I admire. Spinoza - may his name be blotted from the memories of the history books.

I named my fourth son after Rabbi Akiva Eiger, who was the Gadol Hador in Europe the early 1800s. He fought tirelessly in his lifetime against the influences that eventually became the Reform movement. Now THAT is a man I admire. I would put him, Rashi and perhaps Rav Moshe Feinstein at the top of my list of Jews I admire. Oh, and Sandy Koufax, too.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:34 PM
 
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While the Rambam (Maimonides) is more likely to be revered by Sephardic Jews (I'm Ashkinazi), he was surely one of the greats. He'd make my top ten list of people I admire. Spinoza - may his name be blotted from the memories of the history books.

I named my fourth son after Rabbi Akiva Eiger, who was the Gadol Hador in Europe the early 1800s. He fought tirelessly in his lifetime against the influences that eventually became the Reform movement. Now THAT is a man I admire. I would put him, Rashi and perhaps Rav Moshe Feinstein at the top of my list of Jews I admire. Oh, and Sandy Koufax, too.
Thanks, Flipflop, I will look up those people.

I hope Hank Greenberg was not offended by your leaving him out.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:04 PM
 
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Thanks, Flipflop, I will look up those people.

I hope Hank Greenberg was not offended by your leaving him out.
You know, I was trying to recall Hank Greenberg's name, and I just couldn't remember it, so I "settled" for Koufax. I hope you can forgive me.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:05 PM
 
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While the Rambam (Maimonides) is more likely to be revered by Sephardic Jews (I'm Ashkinazi), he was surely one of the greats. He'd make my top ten list of people I admire. Spinoza - may his name be blotted from the memories of the history books.

I named my fourth son after Rabbi Akiva Eiger, who was the Gadol Hador in Europe the early 1800s. He fought tirelessly in his lifetime against the influences that eventually became the Reform movement. Now THAT is a man I admire. I would put him, Rashi and perhaps Rav Moshe Feinstein at the top of my list of Jews I admire. Oh, and Sandy Koufax, too.
The famous Rabbi Akiva I believe was much admired by Jews. Other famous rabbis were Rabbi Hillel and Rabbi Shammai.

I think also Bar Kochava would have been admired as well Yehuda Hamaccabi.
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:08 PM
 
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The famous Rabbi Akiva I believe was much admired by Jews.
Agreed.

Just for clarity, these are two different "Rebbe Akiva's." One lived roughly 2,000 years ago and you will see his name mentioned in the Talmud many times, the other in the late 1700s/early 1800s (the one my son is named after).
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:44 PM
 
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Really? I expected that about Spinoza, but I thought that Mamonides was regarded more highly even within orthodox Judaism. I think I have seen theflipflop reference him several times..
Sorry. I misread... Moses Mendelsohn

The Rambam... aha... he was and still is revered by both Sephardic AND Ashkenazi Jews.
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:46 PM
 
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Sorry. I misread... Moses Mendelsohn

The Rambam... aha... he was and still is revered by both Sephardic AND Ashkenazi Jews.
That makes more sense... I was having a hard time wrapping my head around the idea that an Orthodox Jew didn't have any use for Mamonides .

-NoCapo
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