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Old 08-26-2013, 09:11 AM
 
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He's saying you need to chill out and learn how to have a civil discussion instead of criticizing everything through the lens of ultraorthodox.

 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:12 AM
 
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He's saying you need to chill out and learn how to have a civil discussion instead of criticizing everything through the lens of ultraorthodox.
So now "halacha" is called the "lens of the ultraorthodox".
 
Old 08-26-2013, 10:21 AM
 
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You can call it whatever you want. Not everybody follows it to the same degree and constantly ramming it down people's throats doesn't do much to improve discourse on a discussion forum.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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You can call it whatever you want. Not everybody follows it to the same degree and constantly ramming it down people's throats doesn't do much to improve discourse on a discussion forum.
I will not criticize my fellow Jew for their lack of properly following the mitzvos. We're all holding at different levels and have the potential to do more. But when my fellow Jew advertises the violation of halacha as acceptable, or possibly as even preferable to keeping the mitzvos, I must speak up.

Tochacha (rebuke) is difficult to hear, and often the person receiving it lashes out at the person who gives it. This is normal human nature. But we Jews have an obligation to our Jewish brethren to give tochacha when it's deserved.
 
Old 08-26-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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constantly ramming it down people's throats doesn't do much to improve discourse on a discussion forum.
Ramming WHAT down people's throats? A legitimate response on a Judaism forum would be one that conforms to halacha, don't you think?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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No, I don't. As Pruzhany said "The name of the forum is Judaism. The name is not Orthodox Judaism." Obviously this is not an authoritative source, but it gets the point across that there is a wide spectrum of Jewish thought regarding Halakha.

"While there are a wide variety of Conservative views, a common belief is that Halakha is, and has always been, an evolving process subject to interpretation by rabbis in every time period."

"Reform Judaism and Reconstructionist Judaism both hold that modern views of how the Torah and rabbinic law developed imply that the body of rabbinic Jewish law is no longer normative (seen as binding) on Jews today."

"Humanistic Jews believe that the entire Jewish experience, and not only the Torah, should be studied as a source for Jewish behavior and ethical values."
 
Old 08-26-2013, 04:07 PM
 
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Its 0105, ma nishma?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 04:50 PM
 
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No, I don't. As Pruzhany said "The name of the forum is Judaism. The name is not Orthodox Judaism.
How many Judaisms did we accept at Mt. Sinai? Can you list them?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 05:22 PM
 
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I didn't accept any Judaisms on Mt. Sinai. In fact, I've never been there. Have you?
 
Old 08-26-2013, 05:24 PM
 
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How many Judaisms did we accept at Mt. Sinai? Can you list them?
This is priceless. Please tell me you were at Mt. Sinai several thousand years ago and helped carry some tablets down the mountain while you were "accepting" Judaism.
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