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Old 01-15-2014, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Don't think he's going to add any weight to your argument if you want TFF or Iwish to agree with you. As far as they're concerned he's a hippie nutjob and is teaching lies.
They think that about anyone who disagrees with them. Personally, I don't feel like I have to agree with everyone about everything. We all have our own viewpoints and perspectives on the world. That's what makes life interesting.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:28 PM
 
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They think that about anyone who disagrees with them. Personally, I don't feel like I have to agree with everyone about everything. We all have our own viewpoints and perspectives on the world. That's what makes life interesting.
The fly in the ointment is that when it comes to Judaism, one's own viewpoint is irrelevant.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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[quote=iwishiwerethin;33037173]The fly in the ointment is that when it comes to Judaism, one's own viewpoint is irrelevant.[/]

From Rabbi Sacks (former cheif rabbi of the uk) Torah portion this week:


"That is what made Jews historically hard to lead. As Chaim Weitzmann, first president of Israel, famously said, I head a nation of a million presidents. The Lord may be our shepherd, but no Jew was ever a sheep. At the same time it is what led Jews to have an impact on the world out of all proportion to their numbers. Jews constitute only the tiniest fragment one fifth of one per cent of the population of the world, but an extraordinarily high percentage of leaders in any given field of human endeavour.
To be a Jew is to be called on to lead."

Yitro (5774) - A Nation of Leaders Rabbi Sacks
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:55 PM
 
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I'm one happy follower, but I'll choose my leader(s) wisely.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:15 PM
 
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The fly in the ointment is that when it comes to Judaism, one's own viewpoint is irrelevant.[/]

From Rabbi Sacks (former cheif rabbi of the uk) Torah portion this week:


"That is what made Jews historically hard to lead. As Chaim Weitzmann, first president of Israel, famously said, I head a nation of a million presidents. The Lord may be our shepherd, but no Jew was ever a sheep. At the same time it is what led Jews to have an impact on the world out of all proportion to their numbers. Jews constitute only the tiniest fragment one fifth of one per cent of the population of the world, but an extraordinarily high percentage of leaders in any given field of human endeavour.
To be a Jew is to be called on to lead."

Yitro (5774) - A Nation of Leaders Rabbi Sacks
I like that quote. Now time to give the Torah a chance. Both oral and written. I challenge one of the men in this forum to daven in a minyan, or learn an amud of gamara tonight. Please report back who completed the assignment.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I challenge one of the men in this forum to daven in a minyan, or learn an amud of gamara tonight. Please report back who completed the assignment.
So much to choose from. 5400 amuds, which one?? Its nearly 9p in the eastern US are you going to read one page? Its a bit late to do Maariv, can you get a Minyan together in the next 15 minutes?
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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So much to choose from. 5400 amuds, which one?? Its nearly 9p in the eastern US are you going to read one page? Its a bit late to do Maariv, can you get a Minyan together in the next 15 minutes?
I davened Mincha in the office today, and I caught a 9pm Maariv in my shul. I also learned a daf tonight in my daf hayomi shiur. Mesechta Pesachim.

The entire daf tonight had to do with methods of calculating time (in order to shecht the Korban pesach at the proper zman.) It's from this daf whereby we learn out Rabbeinu Tam and holding by 72 minutes after Shabbos sundown. If you saw the astrology these Tanna's knew nearly 2,000 years ago, you'd be amazed. Rav actually calculated the circumference of the earth (correctly) what? 1700 years before scientists would do so?

How's it go for you? Did you do a bit of learning tonight?
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Old 01-15-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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How's it go for you? Did you do a bit of learning tonight?
It's 7:40 in the morning so I did Shacharit. Amazed we had a minyan.
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Old 01-16-2014, 05:23 AM
 
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I like that quote. Now time to give the Torah a chance. Both oral and written. I challenge one of the men in this forum to daven in a minyan, or learn an amud of gamara tonight. Please report back who completed the assignment.
I love Rabbi Sacks. I value his thoughts and ideas probably more than any other human being. He is currently doing a year long study of leadership through the parasha. It's been fascinating so far. He's a true visionary.
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