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Old 04-08-2014, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I have heard that too, that Israel has issues with people that convert to Judaism. How come they do~? Is it the ultra Orthodox that has the issues with it~? I know someone, who recently told me she is moving to Israel. She has converted in the past years and lives like the ultra Orthodox. So, what issues will she have there when she goes~? Just curious.
If she has proof of a Orthodox conversion; None.
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Old 04-08-2014, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Assuming the rabbinate personally knows the rabbis on her beit din (religious court of law). If they are not very well-known, the rabbinate will need more information before accepting her as a Jew.

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Old 04-09-2014, 02:03 PM
 
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If she has proof of a Orthodox conversion; None.
She did get an Orthodox conversion. My next question is, why doesn't Israel accept people who get converted to Conservative or the Reform movement~?
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Old 04-09-2014, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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She did get an Orthodox conversion. My next question is, why doesn't Israel accept people who get converted to Conservative or the Reform movement~?
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Old 04-09-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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She did get an Orthodox conversion. My next question is, why doesn't Israel accept people who get converted to Conservative or the Reform movement~?
For the same reason that all Jews who understand that non-halachic conversions aren't conversions don't accept them. Even secular Israelis understand can see through the hypocrisy of "Judaism-lite."
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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For the same reason that all Jews who understand that non-halachic conversions aren't conversions don't accept them. Even secular Israelis understand can see through the hypocrisy of "Judaism-lite."
Actually it's more like Israelis haven't been exposed to non-Orthodox Judaism. Only Orthodox synagogues get full state funding, which is why there are no such thing as "synagogue dues" in Israel. All they ever see are Orthodox synagogues, which means that when they visit the U.S. and go into a non-Orthodox synagogue, their mind gets blown and they think it's a different religion because it looks unfamiliar. Also because they don't understand why anyone in their right mind would pay $2000+ a year to a synagogue.

The other reason that there are no Orthodox synagogues is that prior to mass Ashkenazi aliyah in the late 19th and early to mid 20th centuries, most Jews living in Eretz Yisrael were Sephardi, who didn't have the Orthodox/Conservative/Reform divide. Everybody went to the same synagogue, whether or not they ate bacon cheeseburgers on Yom Kippur. They were welcome (as long as they didn't bring the cheeseburger to shul ). In contrast, try joining TFF or iwishiwerethin's Ashkenazi American ultra-Orthodox community and get caught eating a bacon cheeseburger .
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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Explain, please~?


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For the same reason that all Jews who understand that non-halachic conversions aren't conversions don't accept them. Even secular Israelis understand can see through the hypocrisy of "Judaism-lite."
I don't understand why they don't accept them~?


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Actually it's more like Israelis haven't been exposed to non-Orthodox Judaism. Only Orthodox synagogues get full state funding, which is why there are no such thing as "synagogue dues" in Israel. All they ever see are Orthodox synagogues, which means that when they visit the U.S. and go into a non-Orthodox synagogue, their mind gets blown and they think it's a different religion because it looks unfamiliar. Also because they don't understand why anyone in their right mind would pay $2000+ a year to a synagogue.
You mean that no one pays dues in any affiliation in Israel's congregations~?
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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I don't understand why they don't accept them~?
Because the non-Orthodox didn't buy their Members Only Jackets.
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Old 04-09-2014, 08:36 PM
 
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Because the non-Orthodox didn't buy their Members Only Jackets.

I feel we are all created equal in what we believe in and how we choose to live our life. No matter what color we are, religion or ethnic background we have, we should all get along. There is more to life than to fight like they do over there. Religion has been a huge reason wars have been fought and it never solved anything except loosing a life and medical issues from being in the war.
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Old 04-09-2014, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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I don't understand what the point of that comment is, especially the part that denounces religion on a religious subforum.
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