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Old 06-02-2014, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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I'm seriously shocked. You would prefer I speak the language of Gentiles with my fellow Jews in this forum instead of the language of Jews? Amazing.
The language of the vast majority of Jews is Modern Hebrew in Israel and English in the U.S..

Not Yiddish! Or Yinglish or whatever.
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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I'm seriously shocked. You would prefer I speak the language of Gentiles with my fellow Jews in this forum instead of the language of Jews? Amazing.
80% of Yiddish is a derivation of GERMAN. So who is speaking the language of Gentiles???
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Old 06-02-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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I'll get back with you all tonight. I want to clarify one point first.
So after Rav Zilberstein ruled out using "damages" as his approach to the shaila, he wanted to say in the name if the Dubna Magghid, that someone who sends a sheliach (agent) into the shook and the sheliach is killed, them the person who sent the sheliach is chaiv (responsible). But that too was not the answer. He finally said that it's impossible to do an aveira at the same time as a mitzva, and Reuven was doing a mitzva by borrowing the yarmulke to walk to the bathroom, therefore he was not chaiv and did not need to do t'shuva for the death of Shimon. That was the final psak.

What I find troubling with that psak, is that I believe one can do a mitzvah and an aveira at the same time. For instance, when ones takes the vow of a nazir, they refrain from drinking wine, which is an aveira. We know it is an aveira because when the man breaks his vow of being a nazir, he brings a korbon chatas, which is only brought for an aveira.

Maybe Iwish, or another Talmud chachim will have an answer.
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Old 06-06-2014, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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So after Rav Zilberstein ruled out using "damages" as his approach to the shaila, he wanted to say in the name if the Dubna Magghid, that someone who sends a sheliach (agent) into the shook and the sheliach is killed, them the person who sent the sheliach is chaiv (responsible). But that too was not the answer. He finally said that it's impossible to do an aveira at the same time as a mitzva, and Reuven was doing a mitzva by borrowing the yarmulke to walk to the bathroom, therefore he was not chaiv and did not need to do t'shuva for the death of Shimon. That was the final psak.

What I find troubling with that psak, is that I believe one can do a mitzvah and an aveira at the same time. For instance, when ones takes the vow of a nazir, they refrain from drinking wine, which is an aveira. We know it is an aveira because when the man breaks his vow of being a nazir, he brings a korbon chatas[/b], which is only brought for an aveira.

Maybe Iwish, or another Talmud chachim will have an answer.

I request that the poster give an English translation of all the items that are bolded so I may understand what is stated.
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Old 06-06-2014, 05:42 PM
 
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Have a gut shabbes, all...
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:05 AM
 
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So after Rav Zilberstein ruled out using "damages" as his approach to the shaila, he wanted to say in the name if the Dubna Magghid, that someone who sends a sheliach (agent) into the shook and the sheliach is killed, them the person who sent the sheliach is chaiv (responsible). But that too was not the answer. He finally said that it's impossible to do an aveira at the same time as a mitzva, and Reuven was doing a mitzva by borrowing the yarmulke to walk to the bathroom, therefore he was not chaiv and did not need to do t'shuva for the death of Shimon. That was the final psak.

What I find troubling with that psak, is that I believe one can do a mitzvah and an aveira at the same time. For instance, when ones takes the vow of a nazir, they refrain from drinking wine, which is an aveira. We know it is an aveira because when the man breaks his vow of being a nazir, he brings a korbon chatas, which is only brought for an aveira.

Maybe Iwish, or another Talmud chachim will have an answer.
Translation of Jewish/Hebrew terms

Shaila-question pertaining to Jewish Law
Dubna Magid- Sage/preacher of a place called Dubna?
Averiah- Sin, Transgression
Psak- Legal, Halachic ruling
Nazir- Nazarite
Koraban- Chatat - Sin offering
Chacam- sage in this case student/disciple of a sage
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Old 07-15-2015, 08:59 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Translation of Jewish/Hebrew terms

Shaila-question pertaining to Jewish Law
Dubna Magid- Sage/preacher of a place called Dubna?
Averiah- Sin, Transgression
Psak- Legal, Halachic ruling
Nazir- Nazarite
Koraban- Chatat - Sin offering
Chacam- sage in this case student/disciple of a sage
You've translated words without the context that they are sitting in. If you want to jump in and give translations, then translate the entire post into English using the proper context so it flows correctly and so that anyone on C-D can fully understand it. There are certain words that have no English equivalent so at a minimum a link should be supplied to explain the word.

Example:
Nazir
https://www.ou.org/torah/parsha/rabb...rom_the_nazir/
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:23 PM
 
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Since this is a Halacha thread, is it really necessary to translate? Let's talk like Jews and use words that Jews use. Why do we have to cater to the lowest common denominator? Let's talk like kings. We all can do it. I know we can. Who's with me?
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Since this is a Halacha thread, is it really necessary to translate? Let's talk like Jews and use words that Jews use. Why do we have to cater to the lowest common denominator? Let's talk like kings. We all can do it. I know we can. Who's with me?
Yes we need to yield to the least common denominator since this is a public forum and thus people should not have to use a translator to attempt to figure out what you are trying to get across. This is not the YWN (Yeshiva World News) Coffee Room.
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Old 07-15-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Logan Township, Minnesota
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Since this is a Halacha thread, is it really necessary to translate? Let's talk like Jews and use words that Jews use. Why do we have to cater to the lowest common denominator? Let's talk like kings. We all can do it. I know we can. Who's with me?
Since the thread is called "Weekly Halacha Question" I anticipate there will be Jewish terms. If any of us need a term explained, we should feel free to ask. It won't hurt for us non-Jews to learn Jewish religious terms if we venture into this thread.
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