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Old 02-14-2014, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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The chumras bring us joy. That's why we do them.
I think bobo1234 should know what he's getting into. If he moves into an Ashkenazi Orthodox community, the chumrot become mandatory because everybody's doing it, and to not do them would bring him not joy but ostracization. If he doesn't want to get in on the chumra rat race he should either go to a non-Ashkenazi community or stay in a kiruv environment like a Chabad House or Aish. At such places he can be free to be wherever he feels comfortable in his observance, which may be Haredi or left wing Orthodox or flexidox, etc.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Yeah my bad. The Romaniote, Bukharian, Yemenite, Baghdadi, Cochin, etc.....

Not an issue. I wonder if the OP knows that there are two Talmuds and there are numerous passages that conflict with the each other in the other Talmud. But that may be a future thread of its own.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Does it really matter where I get a Tefillin from? I bought the Artscroll Siddur from this local Jewish shop and I know they sell Tefillin there too.
Yes. It matters very much, because Tefillin need to be Kosher, otherwise you might as well lay a plastic bag on your head. If you don't know the scribe and have no clue about the laws of Tefillin, you have no choice but to leave it to someone who does. You don't want to make a bracha levatalah nor go one day without Tefillin.

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I also asked him about some of the mishachists in Chabad and his answer was very confusing. I guess Chassidics believe that every generation has a leader for the Jewish people and for this generation it was the Rebbe. He said it was common to give these leaders the title of Messiah. I then asked him if there were two different types of Messiahs and I honestly couldn't understand his answer. I really don't think he worships the Rebbe, but he definitely venerates him as a special leader.
All Chassidim venerate their particular Rebbe. That's what chassidus is all about. Besides for some lubavitchers (and I'm not sure how many), nobody ever called their Rebbe Moshiach. The idea of having a LIVE spiritual leader holds true for all Jews, because Yiddishkeit it's not a "float around and do as your heart tells you to do" novelty.

The nice thing is you can always ask, and a good spiritual mentor will take the time to answer.

Gut Shabbos.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:28 AM
 
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Not an issue. I wonder if the OP knows that there are two Talmuds and there are numerous passages that conflict with the each other in the other Talmud. But that may be a future thread of its own.
LOL

Within the same Talmud, you have conflicting opinions. MOD CUT

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Old 02-14-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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LOL

Within the same Talmud, you have conflicting opinions. MOD CUT.
Emes and factual correctness are not related concepts.

He is being factually correct when he says the two Talmuds occasionally contradict. But that is far from emes. Any statement meant to mislead other Jews is sheker.

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Old 02-14-2014, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Emes and factual correctness are not related concepts.

He is being factually correct when he says the two Talmuds occasionally contradict. But that is far from emes. Any statement meant to mislead other Jews is sheker.
Is it that much a hardship to type truth instead of emes?? And by using the word sheker which means a lie, what are you inferring??
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Old 02-14-2014, 01:15 PM
 
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LOL

Within the same Talmud, you have conflicting opinions. MOD CUT.
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Is it that much a hardship to type truth instead of emes?? And by using the word sheker which means a lie, what are you inferring??
Often times telling the facts is sheker. G-d is not asking us to focus on the facts, but rather we should always view everything thru the lenses of the Torah and the proper hashkafo, and by doing so, we will be automatically clinging to emes.

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Old 02-14-2014, 02:42 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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Often times telling the facts is sheker. G-d is not asking us to focus on the facts, but rather we should always view everything thru the lenses of the Torah and the proper hashkafo, and by doing so, we will be automatically clinging to emes.
What?
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Old 02-14-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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What?
Here I'll translate it:

Originally Posted by theflipflop
Often times telling the facts is a lie. G-d is not asking us to focus on the facts, but rather we should always view everything thru the lenses of the Torah and the proper outlook, and by doing so, we will be automatically clinging to the truth.


It's Shabbat eve, so hopefully he'll explain his philosophical answer in about 26+ hours.


BTW here's some unconnected reading material while were gone.
http://www.orange-papers.org/orange-propaganda.html
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Lake Worth, FL
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Shabbat Shalom everyone!

Okay, so I just spoke with the Rabbi for about an hour and he showed me how to put on Tefillin, the blessings, and to read the Shema. I guess I should go out and buy a Tefillin now.
You didn't know how to lay Tefillin or read the Shema as a Reform Jew?

-Jewlite convert who lays Tefillin every morning and reads the Shema twice a day.
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