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Old 02-17-2014, 06:38 PM
 
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I love Deuteronomy!!

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Old 02-17-2014, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Eretz Yisrael
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Enlighten me broseph, because I am interested in what Deut 22:5 means then.
Read the links I included as they should suffice.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:05 PM
 
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Men and boys don't have the same requirements of tzniut because much less of them is considered "ervah" (nakedness) in Orthodox Judaism. For example, married women's hair is ervah, while men's isn't. Same with the thighs, thus the need for long skirts. In fact the voice of a woman is nakedness (kol b'isha ervah), one of the reasons (among many) why women can't chant the Torah in Orthodox Judaism, because Torah-observant men will get sexually aroused by the chanting.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:12 PM
 
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^Wow!! So what you're saying is that orthodox women don't even need to buy lingerie and put it on for their husband? All they have to do is pull out a torah, start reading it out loud, and the orthodox husband is instantly aroused? This sounds better than the Karma Sutra!
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:18 PM
 
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One thing that has always struck me is the general similarity in the concept of modest dress for women between Orthodox Judaism and Orthodox Islam. I don't mean that all the details are the same, but that the extreme nature of the prohibitions and requirements is similar. There is that same concern that men will become "aroused". As one born in 1944 into mainstream American culture, I find it hard to relate to being aroused by a woman's voice.
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Old 02-17-2014, 08:49 PM
 
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Escort Rider, in fact Islam uses the same Semitic word as Hebrew to describe nakedness: awrah. The Wikipedia article on Arwah has a discussion on whether women's voices are awrah in Islamic worship, parallel to the Orthodox Jewish controversy.
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Old 02-18-2014, 05:43 AM
 
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Sure. So according to pruzhany's diagram:

Women must have their head covered.
Only married women must have their head covered.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:18 AM
 
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Enlighten me broseph, because I am interested in what Deut 22:5 means then. I'm not fluent in Hebrew to read the Torah in its intended way.
A new thread has been started in Religion & Spirituality to discuss it.
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