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Old 01-27-2015, 07:37 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Indeed. And I know personally of many examples where children of a gentile mother and jewish father converted to judaism as they were raised jewish. ...
I can take that a step further to where both parents are Lesbians and they live in a Modern Orthodox neighborhood in NY. They had a civil marriage and the neighbors I've met have a live and let live attitude. The daughters blood mother is the Jewish one.
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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I think Racheli123 has a good grasp of where's she's at, and where she wants to go. I know my responses were very straight forward, and I think she has a good sense of what is emes. Can do and will do are two different things. I wish her great hatzlacha as she plows her path forward.
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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I can take that a step further to where both parents are Lesbians and they live in a Modern Orthodox neighborhood in NY. They had a civil marriage and the neighbors I've met have a live and let live attitude. The daughters blood mother is the Jewish one.
Being a lesbian is no heter to following the 613. Bravo to them for guarding the Torah as MO Jews.
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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Hope nobody feels offended if I did not agree with them.

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Not here. But as you've seen we do have some kinderlach.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Idc7fwJuw8
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Old 01-27-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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Being a lesbian is no heter to following the 613. Bravo to them for guarding the Torah as MO Jews.
And being Gay men??
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:03 PM
 
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Not here. But as you've seen we do have some kinderlach.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Idc7fwJuw8
Cool vid...Who was the guy in red?...
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:09 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Cool vid...Who was the guy in red?...
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Old 01-27-2015, 08:12 PM
 
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And being Gay men??
Better to be gay and Mitzva observant than to be gay and totally frei, wouldn't we all agree?
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:15 PM
 
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Better to be gay and Mitzva observant than to be gay and totally frei, wouldn't we all agree?
Thank you for agreeing that you can be gay AND mitzvah observant.
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Old 01-27-2015, 09:54 PM
 
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Regarding the OP, I know a happily married couple in their 50's where the husband is Jewish and the wife isn't. He told me that as he got older, he realized that finding a compatible soulmate was more important than finding somebody Jewish.

I know a couple where the man is a secular Jew but raised Conservative and strongly Zionist, and the woman is a Unitarian. She is quite keen on learning about Jewish customs and the Torah and intends to convert to Judaism. Based on this, I think it's likely that this couple will create a Jewish home and raise children with a strong Jewish identity.

I also know a couple in their late 20's where both the man and the woman are halachic Jews but because their parents were Soviet Jews, they know almost nothing about Judaism. I don't wager on their future children being particularly connected to Judaism.

What is most important for the Jewish people is for a couple to pledge to create a Jewish home and raise Jewish children. When one spouse is not Jewish, it is more likely for the non-Jewish spouse to convert or at least go along with Judaism if he or she isn't strongly religious and doesn't have religious parents. In this way, Jewish tradition is passed down to their kids. Even if both spouses are halachically Jewish, if they have no Jewish identity besides bagels and lox, it's likely that their offspring won't be Jewish.
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