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Old 02-19-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: In God's Hand
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Greetings.

Would any Jew please confirm & clarify the special sabbath that is not the seventh day sabbath?

Is it true that this special sabbath is not a fixated day sabbath but it has to follow the numbered day of the month of the Jewish calender whch is slightly different from the average modern calender today?

And because this special sabbath is on a fixated numbered day of the month, that day will always be a different day of the week each year?

Is it possible for this special sabbath to fall on the actual sabbath day at the end of the week?

How many times has this special sabbath had fallen on the seventh day sabbath?

Is there a mathematical formula for calculating what day of the week of that month that this special sabbath will fall on or do you just go by a calender?

Is there any way to view a Jewish calender that presents the special sabbath down through past history on the internet all the way back to when it was first initiated for the people of Israel to follow?

Thank you for your time and service.
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Old 02-19-2015, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The only day that would fit is Yom Kippur, the day of atonement. It is often called the "Shabbat of Shabbats".

And every Jewish calender shows what day Yom Kippur is on.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur
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Old 02-19-2015, 07:48 AM
 
Location: US Wilderness
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Originally Posted by JB from NC View Post
The only day that would fit is Yom Kippur, the day of atonement. It is often called the "Shabbat of Shabbats".

And every Jewish calender shows what day Yom Kippur is on.
Yom Kippur - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
What may be intended by 'special sabbath' is the prohibition on work like that on Shabbat (with some exceptions) that is in effect on a number of Jewish holidays.

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Work is not permitted on Rosh Hashanah, on Yom Kippur, on the first and second days of Sukkot, on Shemini Atzeret, on Simchat Torah, on Shavu'ot, and the first, second, seventh and eighth days of Passover. The "work" prohibited on those holidays is the same as that prohibited on Shabbat, except that cooking, baking, transferring fire and carrying, all of which are forbidden on Shabbat, are permitted on holidays. When a holiday occurs on Shabbat, the full Shabbat restrictions are observed.

Judaism 101: Jewish Holidays
In this sense, these holidays might be called 'special sabbaths'. I suspect the above question is related to a discussion in another forum about some Christian scripture that refers to a 'special sabbath' relative to Passover. But it is not clear if it refers to Passover itself or a Passover that happens to fall on the weekly sabbath. There are reasons to argue either way. The opinion I expressed is that the author could have cause to deliberately make it ambiguous.

But all that is on another forum.
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Old 02-19-2015, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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What may be intended by 'special sabbath' is the prohibition on work like that on Shabbat (with some exceptions) that is in effect on a number of Jewish holidays.



In this sense, these holidays might be called 'special sabbaths'. I suspect the above question is related to a discussion in another forum about some Christian scripture that refers to a 'special sabbath' relative to Passover. But it is not clear if it refers to Passover itself or a Passover that happens to fall on the weekly sabbath. There are reasons to argue either way. The opinion I expressed is that the author could have cause to deliberately make it ambiguous.

But all that is on another forum.
Then it should probably remain there.

In Judaism, the inclusion of work restrictions does not make a holiday or festive a "special Shabbat". Yom Kippur is the only non-Shabbat day given that title.
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Old 02-24-2015, 09:13 AM
 
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As mentioned Yom Kipper is the only day that would be considered "Shabbat of all Shabbats".
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Old 01-28-2017, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Ashe N.C
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There are Sabbaths and there are High Sabbaths. Some times they are not fixed. There are Sabbaths at the beginning of some Feast days and at the end, they can be different than the seventh day Sabbath.
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Old 01-28-2017, 04:58 PM
 
Location: NJ
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The problem is the use of the word "shabbat" -- it is used textually to mean 4 separate ideas as a noun:
1. the seventh day of the week
2. the seventh year in the shemittah cycle
3. a week
4. a seven year cycle

the sh-v-t root (as a verb) also means "rest" or "cease" and is used to refer to other instances of resting

the term shabbat shabbaton is used 6 times in the 5 books (and shabbaton, by itself, is used 4 times). "Shabbaton shabbat kodesh" is used once (in Exodus) to refer to the weekly sabbath, as it is referred to by shabbat shabbaton 2 other times in the book of Exodus.

In Leviticus, the phrase shabbat shabbaton refers to the day of Atonement, the weekly sabbath, and the seventh year in the shemittah cycle.

So I don't know what anyone thinks the "high sabbath" is. If it is an appropriation of the term Shabbat Hagadol, that is a substantially post biblical label for the weekly sabbath that directly precedes Passover. That's it.
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