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Old 03-23-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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Tikva, try this one: Klieg, Klieg, Klieg-Du bist a Nar.

 
Old 03-23-2015, 06:37 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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The you is you HyperionGap because it's always about you, isn't it? Now, show me where I'm wrong about you : )
I don't know why you're smiling. You're not funny.

I haven't done either of those two things you described and I find it offensive that you would make up stories and lie about someone you don't even know.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 07:02 PM
 
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I would like to know TFF's opinion on this post. I notice he's been quite quiet recently.
I believe sincere converts are 100% Jewish. I believe Reform and Conservative conversions add the individual to k'lal yisroel, but only halachic conversions make one Jewish. I've never met a single Orthodox convert who wasn't at least a little eccentric. IMO, you gotta be nuts to join this tribe, and if you do, I admire the heck out of that kind of fortitude.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 07:05 PM
 
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"I've never met a single Orthodox convert who wasn't at least a little eccentric. IMO, you gotta be nuts to join this tribe." Well said, bravo! Bravo!
 
Old 03-23-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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Earlier you wrote: "I know more than I ever want to know about who you personally are" with respect to me. Then when I give you a taste of your own medicine you complain by later writing: "I find it offensive that you would make up stories and lie about someone you don't even know."

You should take offense because you've been on my case this entire thread with your ad hominems. Now you know how it feels. I clearly asked you to show me how I'm wrong about you and now you've done so. Thank you. Mission accomplished.

Back to the main subject of this thread: I still contend a moratorium on conversion is a good idea. Precedence does exist and I feel it would add a good deal of clarity to the current conversion crisis.
So you're basically admitting you're full of crap, a liar and all your posts are just to troll your fellow Jews on this message board.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


Also since you don't seem to be very clear on what an ad hominem is I'm going to help you out.
An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"), short for argumentum ad hominem, means responding to arguments by attacking a person's character, rather than to the content of their arguments. When used inappropriately, it is a fallacy in which a claim or argument is dismissed on the basis of some irrelevant fact or supposition about the author or the person being criticized.[2] Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact or when used in certain kinds of moral and practical reasoning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

In case you still don't understand, nothing I have posted has been an ad hominem because I would have to attack your argument based on your character. Where have I ever attacked your argument? I have only asked you two questions, neither of which you answered. That's not attacking an argument.


Here would be me making a hypothetical argumentum ad hominem:

Your idea about conversion is completely full of crap because you're just some BT wannabee thug spewing drivel because you're too busy measuring the size of your peyot to come up with something that isn't a complete waste of time to read.

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Old 03-23-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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Guys, how about you both bring it down a notch? JayTwila has some unique viewpoints on geirus. Let's just leave it at that and move on.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 07:56 PM
 
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I'm sorry theflipflop you are right. You seem to be the voice of reason.
 
Old 03-23-2015, 08:13 PM
 
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Closing the thread before it becomes a problem.
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