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Old 05-20-2015, 06:21 AM
 
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I understand that Judaism does not allow autopsies in general. So what is allowed in order to determine the exact cause of death when it is clear that person didn't die a natural death (such as a murder victim)?
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Old 05-20-2015, 09:18 AM
 
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I understand that Judaism does not allow autopsies in general. So what is allowed in order to determine the exact cause of death when it is clear that person didn't die a natural death (such as a murder victim)?
I am not a Jew. but the question is a moot point here in the USA, Jf the Court orders an Autopsy, there will be an autopsy with no concern about religious beliefs.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:00 AM
 
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I am not a Jew. but the question is a moot point here in the USA, Jf the Court orders an Autopsy, there will be an autopsy with no concern about religious beliefs.
I think that in most jurisdictions, there WILL be some concern about religious beliefs, and that may affect what the court orders. Also, keep in mind that Jewish law may permit autopsy in some cases. Obviously, you would have to consult a competent halachic authority to get some idea of what cases those might be, and a competent lawyer to find out how true (or false) my first sentence is.
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Old 05-20-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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I think that in most jurisdictions, there WILL be some concern about religious beliefs, and that may affect what the court orders. Also, keep in mind that Jewish law may permit autopsy in some cases. Obviously, you would have to consult a competent halachic authority to get some idea of what cases those might be, and a competent lawyer to find out how true (or false) my first sentence is.
I hope that most jurisdictions do pay concern to religious beliefs.

the Faith I belong to also forbids autopsies, but the courts seem to order them very often.
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Old 05-20-2015, 01:18 PM
 
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I know that in North Carolina, we are able to forgo autopsies, embalming, lined caskets, and other regulations pertaining to burials for religious reasons. I believe Muslims also receive the same exemptions.

Of course the state can (and will) compel an autopsy in cases of crime or public safety. I also believe that Jewish law allows for them in the same instances, and to save a life.
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Old 05-21-2015, 06:48 AM
 
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Thanks for the replies. I was having a discussion with someone who had grown up in Israel and gone to religious schools there and he insisted that Jews here (in the USA) wouldn't allow autopsies to be performed. I don't know what the laws in Israel are in this regard.
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Old 05-21-2015, 09:55 AM
 
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Thanks for the replies. I was having a discussion with someone who had grown up in Israel and gone to religious schools there and he insisted that Jews here (in the USA) wouldn't allow autopsies to be performed. I don't know what the laws in Israel are in this regard.
Most of the religious Jews I know won't allow an autopsy; it will have to be compelled by the state if it's going to happen.
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:28 AM
 
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Most of the religious Jews I know won't allow an autopsy; it will have to be compelled by the state if it's going to happen.
But would religious Jews interfere in an autopsy done on a non-religious Jew if they know about it?
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Old 05-21-2015, 10:47 AM
 
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But would religious Jews interfere in an autopsy done on a non-religious Jew if they know about it?
Some might. Once one is dead, it is often up to the family to make those decisions, even if it goes against the wishes of the deceased.
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Old 05-21-2015, 11:02 AM
 
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Most of the religious Jews I know won't allow an autopsy; it will have to be compelled by the state if it's going to happen.
i work in healthcare and just because a doctor or hospital says "do this" does not mean the family has to do what they say. It is always the patient's choice, and the family's choice. NOT the doctor or medical facility. Doctors do not have any legal authority over a patient or over a family's decisions; often times the medical profession bullies people to believe otherwise.

it would require legal action to require; not doctor's orders
many hospitals, medical centers, doctors, and other health care clinicians promote autopsies because they are used for medical research and to teach med students and interns
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