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This is a practically-minded question. I'm trying to figure out how the "end of Shabbat" goes and how people fit it together in their schedules. I've read that Seudah Shlisheit is a small meal...would you still do the full Shabbat bentsching (grace after meals) at the end? And then, after Havdalah, do you have "real" dinner later that evening? Maybe that's the winter routine, when Shabbat ends early, whereas in the summer, as the Sun sets later, you might make Seudah Shlisheit the "dinner" of the night?
And the order goes Minchah-->Seudah Shlisheit-->Bentsching-->Havdalah-->Maariv ? Because on weekdays, Minchah (afternoon prayers) and Maariv (evening prayers) are usually said back-to-back, but I think I was at a Jewish conference where it was done in the order stated above...
Thanks for your personal tips. I love meals and putting more of them into my day, just trying to find a way for it to make a practical schedule.
Last edited by SlowDriver; 02-28-2016 at 06:15 AM..
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Many "third meals" are done in shul, after mincha but before ma'ariv. The community is together for mincha and has 45 minutes before shabbos ends. So they eat (often there is a vort or discussion), then bentsch, then maa'riv.
During the week there are situations where you can daven ma'ariv "early" that is, after sunset. But on shabbos, we don't daven until 3 stars are out so there will be a gap after mincha.
i know of observant communities that have Havdalah prior to Maariv so that people can drive to the Maariv service
My understanding is that all one must do before performing an action forbidden on Shabbos is wait for Shabbos to end, then say "Baruch haMavdil bayn kodesh l'chol." In fact, that is what is done in our community. Of course, Maariv contains a "mini-Havdalah" in the fourth blessing of the Amidah. Havdalah then follows Maariv, either in the shul or at home.
I certainly cannot state authoritatively that one sequence is more proper than another, although that may be the case. Perhaps rosends will comment.
Many "third meals" are done in shul, after mincha but before ma'ariv. The community is together for mincha and has 45 minutes before shabbos ends. So they eat (often there is a vort or discussion), then bentsch, then maa'riv.
During the week there are situations where you can daven ma'ariv "early" that is, after sunset. But on shabbos, we don't daven until 3 stars are out so there will be a gap after mincha.
Ah, right, that makes sense. Yeah, easier with a community.
i know of observant communities that have Havdalah prior to Maariv so that people can drive to the Maariv service
I presume they say ברוך המבדיל בין קודש לי חול before hand
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