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So have I...However sometimes folks speak with strong knowledge of a subject and most if not all of their knowledge comes from either outdated material or the current media...
Btw, why do you always put three dots after a sentence even if there is already another punctuation mark?
Yes...I always have utilized the ellipsis...For me it indicates an interruption in thought or a pause in the discussion...[/quote]
Well, I do not speak from "outdated material" and for sure not any media. I am just living my life and speaking from recent encounters.
I think that I will say that Judaism is more inconclusive because there are many people recognize Jewish Atheists. I do not think that you can be an Atheist and consider yourself a Jew at the same time because the definition of being Jewish presumes that the events of the Bible occured. So, even though it makes no sense, many Jews recognize Jewish Atheists. This would never happen in Christianity.
I think that I will say that Judaism is more inconclusive because there are many people recognize Jewish Atheists. I do not think that you can be an Atheist and consider yourself a Jew at the same time because the definition of being Jewish presumes that the events of the Bible occured. So, even though it makes no sense, many Jews recognize Jewish Atheists. This would never happen in Christianity.
Judaism is a culture and ethnicity in addition to a religion. Christianity is not.
I think that I will say that Judaism is more inconclusive because there are many people recognize Jewish Atheists. I do not think that you can be an Atheist and consider yourself a Jew at the same time because the definition of being Jewish presumes that the events of the Bible occured. So, even though it makes no sense, many Jews recognize Jewish Atheists. This would never happen in Christianity.
a Jewish atheist is recognized because the two terms are unrelated. Being Jewish is a function of birth while being an atheist is a matter of personal understanding of the universe.
Judaism is a culture and ethnicity in addition to a religion. Christianity is not.
I know.
Do you realize that Jewish culture and the Jewish race/ethnicity cannot exist without G-d? Do you not see that you cannot say that your family is descended from this group of people who experienced certain supernatural events if those events did not happen because (according to them) there is no G-d)?
It just makes no sense.
My knowledge of Buddhism is limited but I think that you can be an Atheist and a Buddhist at the same but an Atheist and a Jew? Never!
I don't understand why it is accepted in our communities.
a Jewish atheist is recognized because the two terms are unrelated. Being Jewish is a function of birth while being an atheist is a matter of personal understanding of the universe.
Please see above. Think about what you wrote and think about what ancestry (and events) define what it means to be a Jew.
All of the ones I've been exposed to, from Conservative to Orthodox.
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Sounds like katzpur has it right and he's expressing himself clearly. I can understand that we're not happy about a Jew somehow being a Mormon, and we recognize that it's a serious error, but that hardly changes the halachic correctness of what katzpur seems to be saying.
I never stated the she had made error.
She is correct that one who is halachically Jewish is a Jew, regardless of what they believe.
But a Christian or Muslim who is halachically Jewish isn't going to be counted in a minyan or call to Torah if they are honest with those around them. Being Jewish through ancestry only doesn't get someone an all-inclusive pass to their local Jewish community.
There is a difference between being halachically Jewish, culturally Jewish, and religiously Jewish.
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