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Old 10-31-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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The contemporary version of "Orthodox" Judaism offers an exclusively stringent set of choices from over 1000 years of halachic opinions without the benefit of a Sanhedrin or prophecy, and does so in a way that is reminiscent of a church. For instance now that we have a fixed calendar for some 1500 years it is not necessary to keep the second day of yomtov because there is no safek (doubt) of the day. The retort of official "Orthodox" doctrine is that this must be maintained although it is not required by the Talmud or by any Sanhedrin.

In addition, the "Orthodox" would never tell any people that nowadays it is unnecessary to have two sets of dishes because our dishware doesnít absorb, or that Torah observant Jews donít have to stick by the custom of waiting six hours or even one hour between meat and milk, or that there is no consensus that electricity is a forbidden melacha on Shabbat, or that they donít have to worry about chalav akum, yayin akum, pat akum, or requiring chalav yisrael nowadays, or that they donít have to immerse dishes bought from a business since they wasnít owned by a non-Jew. And many, many more
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Old 10-31-2017, 12:29 PM
 
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That is certainly your opinion. And with your credentials, it is practically unarguable! Well done.
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Old 10-31-2017, 01:38 PM
 
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Hello, Rosends. My opinion about what specifically?
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Old 10-31-2017, 02:31 PM
 
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Hello, Rosends. My opinion about what specifically?
Your opinion that we don't need to follow the dictates of the halachic decisors.
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Old 10-31-2017, 03:17 PM
 
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Orthodox Judaism versus Talmudic Judaism?

Are you a Christian by any chance as you seem to think you are comparing sadducees and pharisees?
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Old 10-31-2017, 07:36 PM
 
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That is certainly your opinion. And with your credentials, it is practically unarguable! Well done.
Sarcasm?...
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Old 10-31-2017, 08:01 PM
 
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Sarcasm?...
I meant every word I said.
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Old 10-31-2017, 09:55 PM
 
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I meant every word I said.
Yea...
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Old 10-31-2017, 11:42 PM
 
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Your opinion that we don't need to follow the dictates of the halachic decisors.
Which decisors? If you mean opinions after the Talmud, there are usually many opinions, but one is not obliged to accept one over the rest.
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Old 11-01-2017, 03:59 AM
 
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The contemporary version of "Orthodox" Judaism offers an exclusively stringent set of choices from over 1000 years of halachic opinions without the benefit of a Sanhedrin or prophecy, and does so in a way that is reminiscent of a church. For instance now that we have a fixed calendar for some 1500 years it is not necessary to keep the second day of yomtov because there is no safek (doubt) of the day. The retort of official "Orthodox" doctrine is that this must be maintained although it is not required by the Talmud or by any Sanhedrin.

In addition, the "Orthodox" would never tell any people that nowadays it is unnecessary to have two sets of dishes because our dishware doesnít absorb, or that Torah observant Jews donít have to stick by the custom of waiting six hours or even one hour between meat and milk, or that there is no consensus that electricity is a forbidden melacha on Shabbat, or that they donít have to worry about chalav akum, yayin akum, pat akum, or requiring chalav yisrael nowadays, or that they donít have to immerse dishes bought from a business since they wasnít owned by a non-Jew. And many, many more




1) There is a consenus that electricity to be used on Shabbat whilst there was no such thing as it in the days of the Bible and Chazal. it is argued that using it is a violation of the melecha of בערה burning or at least a תולדה of it, or that its עובדין דחול works done during the week which is still forbidden because shabbat is Yom Kodesh a holy and special

2) Things like chalav akum, yayin stam are still binding as these are תקונות enactmentss established by the sages in order to stop non jews from getting too close. so they are still relevant especially outside israel where jews are a minority

Regrading Yom tov sheni you have a point
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