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Old 04-06-2018, 10:34 AM
 
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- What 'Laws' did Abraham & Sarah bind themselves to?
- And how many gods did Ishmael believe?
- Where is the great nation of Ishmael which God made of him? - Gen.17:20
Ishmael is considered to be the father of the Arabic nations. Muslims consider Hagar the ancestor of Muhammed.

As a teenager Ishmael brought idols into the home and worshipped them, mimicking the ways of their idolatrous neighbors. He was considered wild and a bad influence and a danger due to violence which is why Sarah asked for him to be sent away. He became a robber and bandit, but ultimately he repented and returned to G*d whom he had served in his father's house, and whom he had forsaken during his wild life as a hunter and ruler of nations. He united in peace with both his father Abraham, and his brother Isaac, and was considered righteous.

Here is more on Hagar and Ishmael:

https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...-Other-Son.htm
https://www.chabad.org/library/artic...wish/Hagar.htm

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Old 04-07-2018, 07:26 PM
 
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- What 'Laws' did Abraham & Sarah bind themselves to?
Depending on the sources you read, they bound themselves to the 7 laws of Noah plus 1 (though I forget which 1), or they bound themselves, voluntarily, to the 613 ones which would be the later Mosaic code.
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- And how many gods did Ishmael believe?
The text never mentions what he believed.
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- Where is the great nation of Ishmael which God made of him? - Gen.17:20
He is considered the father of the Arab nations. They aren't mighty and numerous?
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Old 06-29-2018, 11:36 PM
 
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Sources I read?

How about what Abraham himself said?
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Old 07-02-2018, 03:00 AM
 
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I don't know, I thought the chosen people lived before the earth and the earth was created for them, I thought the law and the prophets always was even before there was a people name Judah. I think the world only exists so long as for each of the chosen people to be born, and when the final one is born and raised, the kingdom is handed over to Israel. Just my opinion.
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